THE FIFE UFO (!) INCIDENT 1996.
GETTING TO THE TRUTH. ©
AN ARTICLE BY MALCOLM ROBINSON FOUNDER OF (SPI) Strange Phenomena
Stats: 172 pages. 47,955 words.
TABLE OF INFORMATION.
- Preface of Fife Incident. (Page 1)
|The SPI report is true but other comments are not ! (Page 2)|
|The Fife Incident Original Report from 1997. (Page 3)|
|But is the Fife Incident a hoax ? (Page 31)|
|Was I alone in my reservations of this case ? (Page 36)|
|The Fife Incident a hoax ! (Scottish UFO Reports) (Page 37)|
|New witness information. (Page 40)|
|Addressing David Colmans points. (Page 52)|
|The meeting that never was. (Page 56)|
|The full Fife Incident audio transcript interview. (Page 57)|
|Malcolms thoughts on the Fife audio transcript. (Page 163)|
|Added info at the 11th hour. (Page 165)|
|Concluding remarks by Malcolm Robinson. (Page 170) |
Of all the UFO incidents to have occurred in Scotland, none of them
have come as close to the Fife Incident for stirring up intense controversy
This UFO incident occurred near the town of Newton of Falkland Central
Scotland back in September 1996, which was way above the normal sighting by Joe Public. It
involved the observation by 4 witnesses, 2 adults, one teenager and a young ten year old
child of not only a large black triangular shaped craft but numerous small
grey beings seen in front of some woods.
This case has been the subject of much controversy since that day in
September 1996 and the controversy is still raging. So much so, that I have to deal with
it again due to comments made by one Scottish UFOlogist David Colman. I shall deal with
the comments made by Colman and hope that my answers will satisfy him and others who share
For those that are new to this debacle, may I start by presenting the
SPI report on this case, which has appeared in various publications and web sites
world wide. Now while you the reader are reading this report, the most
important thing that you have to bear in mind is this. What you are about to read is
word for word the testimony from two witnesses in the case. Not speculation,
not over dramatisation, but pure and verbal testimony captured on audio tape which is the
base work of this article. If the contention by others that SPI have got
it wrong, and the statements in this report that you are about to read is false. Then may
I supply a copy of the audiotapes so that YOU the reader can make up your own
mind. Once you hear the tape and then look at the written report, you will see that SPI
have been truthful in presenting the testimony from the witnesses. We havent
embellished anything or done some journalistic manufacturing to spice the story up as some
have said. It is there, bold as brass and is a truthful aspect of what was said that
night. Indeed, I feature the Fife Interview audio tapes in transcript further on in this
THE SPI REPORT IS TRUE BUT OTHER COMMENTS ARE NOT !
If the claims made by others who say SPI are making things up in
regards to the Fife Case and are not basing their claims on our full report, then that is
different, and we have to look at this. I have already had this out with Dave Colman
several years ago in mega lengthy letters. How I wish I had have kept those letters as I
am now writing from memory. I shall address Davids points further into this article.
For now though, let me take you the reader of this report, back to my original SPI report
on this case which was written up in 1997. It reads thus.
The FIFE INCIDENT BY
UFOlogy can throw up some pretty challenging cases, and many investigators world- wide
have seen how vastly perplexing this subject can be. High strangeness cases are on the
increase, but what exactly does this tell us ? Here in Scotland, recent cases would
suggest that strange things are still afoot. Not only has there been photographic and
video evidence of late, but we have had a few CE IV or close proximity cases, with
witnesses claiming encounters with small, grey 'alien' beings.
The following case, to all intents and purposes, is quite staggering. It borders on the
unbelievable and even for this researcher was quite hard to accept.
But having said that, one must realise that we live in a strange world with many
mysteries, which currently tax our minds. It would be foolish to turn our backs on these
mysteries just because they sound absurd. The following case features elements both common
and uncommon. It was initially featured in the English based QUEST INTERNATIONAL
publication, "UFO MAGAZINE".
I would now like to present Strange Phenomena Investigations' research into this most
fascinating case, but before I do so, I would like to inform the reader that after this
case was featured in UFO MAGAZINE, all witnesses refused any more interviews with Scottish
or English researchers. They have told their story and now wish to get on with their
lives. We at SPI accept this decision, as it is becoming more and more common with cases
of this nature. Thankfully, SPI managed to interview two of the four witnesses in this
case, and what you are about to read is the culmination and extracts of a most fascinating
audio- taped interview.
THE FIFE EVENT, 23rd SEPTEMBER 1996.
SPI learned of this event a few weeks after it had occurred, and in a telephone call to
one of the witnesses, we arranged a date and time to visit and interview. Malcolm
Robinson, accompanied by Billy Devlin and Garry Wood, travelled up by cars to where Mrs
Mary Morrison (pseudonym) lived, an area of Fife in Central Scotland. The area itself is
covered by farmland and there are many small farms secluded about the landscape. The area
is therefore not heavily populated, and the contours of the land rise and fall at
different locations. After getting lost, we eventually found Mrs Morrison's farm and
introduced ourselves to her. We found her to be a warm and pleasant person and quite
attractive. Her farm house actually sits on top of a hill which gives her a commanding and
panoramic view of the Fife valley.
After our introductions, Mary then settled down to tell us quite an incredible tale. I sat
back in my chair, and was amazed as this strange tale unfolded.
This is what she had to tell SPI.
A NIGHT TO REMEMBER !
On the evening of the 23rd of September 1996, Mary Morrison, accompanied by her ten
year old son Peter and Mary's friend Jane, left her farmhouse home to travel to a nearby
town to buy some coffee. The time was around 8:05 in the evening. On the way there, they
observed a huge white stationary light in the sky, initially observed by Mary who was
driving. Mary presumed that this light was either an aircraft or a helicopter, but after a
few seconds realised that this was not the case, as the object was still not moving. This
bright light then amazingly changed into two bright lights, at which point Mary said to
her friend, "Look at those bright lights up there", to which her friend
replied, "It must be an airplane."
Mary decided to stop the car and get out for a look, still thinking that perhaps it could
be some form of aircraft. Everyone alighted from the car and stood next to the road,
looking up in bewilderment at this strange spectacle in the sky, "This was
weird," she said, but things took a turn for the worse when suddenly two massive
bright spotlights illuminated the ground around them. Beams of light criss-crossed one
another in a spiraled dance which captivated all the witnesses. After a period of seconds,
these huge bright white lights were switched off and Mary became aware of looking at a
large black triangular shaped object. This object then proceeded to bank very gently and
Mary then became aware of small red lights at each apex of this triangle, while a brighter
light source (white) was obscured to them as this object slowly turned. As the object
completed its turn, further small red lights were observed on its underside. No noise was
associated with this object and there were no visible signs of any appendages. However,
Mary did say that she saw on top of this triangle, a small dome. When asked by SPI how
large this triangular- shaped object was, she replied that if she held her hand out in
front of her, this object would still be bigger than her hand !
After a few moments, the object slowly and gradually moved or 'drifted' away. The feelings
of all the witnesses were of amazement. They knew that what they had been looking at was
not a normal man-made object. It proceeded to move away from them with only the faint red
lights showing. At this point, Mary decided on the spur of the moment, to wave at this
'thing', and she was most surprised when this object flashed three times to them! She
reckons that the total duration of this incident was around five minutes, and further
stated that the corners of this triangular- shaped object were more round than pointed.
With the object now gone, they decided to get back into their car and continue on with
their journey to collect a jar of coffee. It was on their return journey that they
wondered if they would see this strange object again. No sooner had they thought about
this when the same, or similar object was sighted in the sky, only this time it was
travelling quickly in their direction. So quickly was this object coming towards them,
that Mary's young son Peter started to cry, thinking perhaps that this object might hit
their car. No sooner had Peter started to cry, than this strange object shot back the way
it came and was lost to view in seconds.
BUT MORE WAS TO COME !
Another purchase that Mary had made in this local shop, apart from her coffee, was a UFO
magazine, which contained the phone number of Larry Dean, an investigator with research
group SKYSEARCH. She left a message on his answerphone, stating that if there were any UFO
investigators in her area, to get them out quickly, for something strange was going on.
After making the phone call, they then related their strange sighting to Mary's friend's
daughter Susan, aged 15. Susan was very sceptical and thought that this was one big
wind-up. However, after a bit of persuasion, it was decided to once more go back outside
and see if they could still see this object, never for one moment thinking that they
would. Mary said to SPI that usually these things are only seen once in a life- time and
she wasn't really prepared for what transpired next. But nonetheless, they all agreed
(including young Peter who had earlier been crying) to go out and see if they could see
IT CAN'T BE, CAN IT ?
Travelling out in the direction of their earlier sighting, they did not see the same
object again, but what they did see was what looked like stars sparkling in the night sky
but only much, much lower. "There were hundreds of them," she said. She
couldn't for the life of her fathom out what they were, but they were beautiful. It was at
this point that things started to get 'strange' and the following information may prove,
at least to the hard-nosed sceptic, difficult to believe. But this is what they said
All four witnesses were startled to see a tremendously bright, white light on the ground
beside a group of trees, which were at the other side of a ploughed field. Their initial
thought was that this might be a bright security light attached to a building. However,
they soon noticed a bright glow over some trees, an immense bright blue glow, which
actually shone up from the bottom of the trees into the dark night sky. They likened it to
a bright searchlight as it continued its spinning movements up and out of this grouped
range of trees. In an effort to get closer to this amazing spectacle, they decided to get
back into the car and travel down a little back road. This they did, and they continued to
view the strange spectacle. A sense of non-reality was in the air, when suddenly the
bright, blue, spinning light was joined by other bright lights, red and green. Mary
likened them this time to a laser light show. "They really were lovely," she
said. "We were all moved to tears by them".
It was at this point that events took a dramatic turn, for whilst they were all
captivated by these spinning lights, Mary suddenly became aware of 'figures' silhouetted
in these lights, small grey figures who were running around and appeared to be very busy
picking up what looked like boxes or cubes, and also cylinders or canisters. Further back
in the woods, she said that she saw some form of triangular 'structure' out of which these
small 'beings' were coming and going. But what really surprised Mary the most was the
sight of a very large 'being' who was a different colour from the rest. The 'being', she
said, was a sort of tan brown. 'He' was standing a short distance away from the rest of
these 'beings,' as if he were somehow in charge - this she strongly felt.
Indeed at one point, the large 'being' actually stretched down towards the ground and
opened his right hand to 'something,' stood up, moved back into the trees a bit, then took
up the same position as before. In the sky around this amazing spectacle, were hundreds
upon hundreds of these small star-like 'things' which were just hanging in the sky.
Suddenly a bright beam of light shone down from the sky and illuminated the road in front
Mary related to SPI, that as soon as this 'light beam' hit the ground, her memory of
events becomes sketchy, but she believes that they all took a fright to this light, and
jumped back into the car and headed off to her friend's house. Indeed this is what did
happen (at some point !). It was at her friend's house that she decided to phone Larry
Dean again and inform him about what had happened. Larry was home and suggested to Mary
that she should contact Malcolm Robinson of SPI. He then gave out the number but
unfortunately when Mary tried it, she found much to her disappointment that the line was
discontinued (Malcolm Robinson had moved house). She again phoned Larry, who this time put
her in touch with Tony Dodd of UFO MAGAZINE.
THE THIRD SIGHTING.
It was at Jane's house that Mary spoke to Jane's husband about what had transpired.
Unfortunately he had to go to work, but offered them the use of his binoculars. With
these, the intrepid witnesses decided once more to go out into the dark night and see if
there was any more evidence of these strange objects and 'beings'. One would imagine any
other witnesses as being too frightened to again venture out into the night, but curiosity
was the major factor here, and although slightly fearful they just had to find out more.
Would they see anything more, or would the area be as dark as it usually was on a crisp
September evening ?
Well, they didn't have to wait long. As they traveled in the direction of the earlier
sighting, they again saw many of those strange star shapes in the sky. Also observed near
a transmitter on a hill, was another immensely bright, white light, which was flashing in
a sequence of three! They continued on with their journey and this flashing light was lost
to view. At this point Mary started to become more alarmed. She felt that as these were
narrow country roads, she didn't really want to get trapped here. The excitement of the
initial events was now changing to fear, but she didn't want to show this in front of the
They stopped the car and proceeded to look up into the night sky with the borrowed
binoculars. Jane, who was at this point holding the binoculars, thought she was looking at
a star. Mary replied that "this was not a star" and quickly took the
binoculars from her friend and directed them to the object. Mary stated to SPI that what
she had seen resembled a 'squashed ball', elongated from top to bottom. It was a hot,
fiery orange colour with big irregular indentations in it. " It looked really
shimmery", she said, "as if it was giving off energy." "This
thing", she said, "wasn't on the ground, but it was near the ground".
Near the base of this 'squashed ball' was something like a wiggly, long, oval black spot.
It was moving slowly and was tilting on its axis. To the right of that, and all around,
was a small, orangey light, very round and very small.
The scene once more changed, and they again all witnessed these small 'beings' in the
woods, who seemed to be supervised somehow by this tall brown 'being'. SPI asked Mary how
tall she thought this 'being, was, and she replied, "Oh, at least half the size of
the trees" !!
The time of this third visit was roughly around 11:30pm, and during all of these
observations, no noise at all could be heard, except when Mary directed the binoculars
onto that strange 'squashed ball.' Then she thought she heard a crackle, something like an
electrical crackle. Another unusual statement that Mary relayed to SPI, was that after
using the binoculars to view these strange sights, she could see just as well without
them. She can't for the life of her understand how, because she said that these binoculars
were so bad that it was a wonder at all you could see anything out of them. SPI asked Mary
if she saw what could be termed fingers on any of these 'beings', to which she replied, "No,"
but went onto say that this large, brown, tanned being had a very large bulbous head
with a very flat face. When we asked Mary about how these smaller 'beings' moved in the
woods as they carried these boxes, she stated that they moved just like any normal person
would move. "They were bending at the waist."-- very naturally. There was no
struggle as these 'beings' lifted the boxes and cylinders. They were lifting them quite
The cylinders or canisters, Mary went on to say, were being carried by these small
'beings' lengthwise in their arms. No markings could be discerned on any of the boxes or
cylinders. Susan and Peter, daughter and son of both women, also stated that they could
see these strange 'beings' in the woods close up, just as well as if they were almost
there, an effect that they should not have experienced at that distance!
"THEY ARE COMING OUT OF THE WOODS" !!
However, the most frightening part of the whole night was to come on this third visit, for
whilst they were all again looking at this strange spectacle in the woods, of lots and
lots of small grey 'beings' busily running around, Jane screamed out,
"Oh my God, they are coming out of the woods". There is a mist coming
towards us. My God, there is a cocoon. There are hundreds of them, and they are in these
Susan also screamed," They are coming towards us. They are moving so fast."
Mary was by now becoming increasingly alarmed, and she couldn't understand how it was so
light at the edge of this field. She could even see the straw bales, which she wouldn't
have normally seen, had it been pitch dark. The next sensation or impression that Mary
had, was of these huge straw bales crowding across the road from them, and she could sense
a being at the passenger side of the car, at the window. At this point Mary's friend said,
"Let's get the hell out of here," followed by Susan who shouted, "There
is one standing grinning at me".
Mary then slammed the car into first gear, then second and third and soon realised that
she was doing 55 miles per hour, at which point she thought it better to slow down as she
didn't want to end up losing control of the car. The other passengers in the car looked
back out of the rear window and claimed that the whole field 'lit up' in an enormous blue
flash. They eventually arrived back at Jane's house and stayed up most of the night
extremely shocked and amazed.
I (Malcolm Robinson) asked Mary about this mist that was coming towards her car just
before they fled, and she told me that she herself didn't see this mist, but her friend
described it as looking very fibrous, like a cocoon, and all these small 'beings' were
being carried in it towards their car, their legs never moving. The orange light that they
all saw earlier also contained 'beings', although Mary claims that surprisingly she didn't
see them, but all the others did. SPI ascertained that they arrived back at Jane's house
roughly around 00:30am . Mary had the distinct impression that she had watched this
amazing spectacle for much longer than the actual time that had transpired, indeed on one
occasion, whilst sitting in the car and watching all these small 'beings' moving around in
the woods, she felt the distinct impression that (although she was in a sitting position
in the driver's seat), she was being pushed back into a lying position, with someone or
something holding her head. She didn't mention this sensation to the others, for she
didn't want to alarm them.
UNUSUAL MARKINGS FOUND ON THE WITNESSES' BODIES'.
She said that researcher Tony Dodd from UFO MAGAZINE had suggested that she look out for
unusual marks. That first day as far as she knew, she had none. It was a few days after
that when she learned about her friend's daughter, Susan. She had found a strange mark on
her shoulder, "as if the blood had been sucked up through the skin". This mark
resembled two small vertical bars, side by side, separated only by a small space. Jane,
Mary's friend, ended up initially with two marks on her body, one was on her right
buttock, like a very pale brown birth mark, and the other one was found underneath her
right breast on her ribs.
Mary informed SPI, that although she hadn't noticed any marks on her body, she was getting
extreme discomfort from underneath her arm, at the top where it joins the body (right
shoulder). There was no visible mark, but it was very painful to touch. Her son Peter had
no marks at all. A few days later, Jane found another mark, which appeared, on her right
shoulder. This consisted of a brown discoloration, blotchy and irregular around the edges.
Susan, Jane's daughter, then found another mark, this time on her right shoulder. It was
about 4 inches long and appeared roughly around a week after the main sighting. The week
after the event (Monday the 30th), Jane found on the top of her right thigh, an immense
bruise, a very colourful bruise. SPI asked Mary if she or the others had experienced any
headaches or strange tastes in their mouths after the incident. She replied that they had
not, but individually they were all very stressed -out by the whole incident.
THE INCIDENT IN THE BATHROOM.
On Sunday the 20th of October (a month after the sighting), one of Mary's friends, along
with her son, came to visit. She was leaving her son with Mary as she was going away on a
weekend visit. Soon her son and young Peter were playing happily in his bedroom. However,
things were soon to change, for a short while later as Peter looked out of his bedroom
window, he was surprised to see a small 'white being' with lots of teeth, looking straight
at him. This 'being' was free floating and was not standing on top of the kitchen roof. He
was too small for this. After a few moments, the 'being' just simply floated straight
upwards with ease and was gone in seconds. According to Peter, his friend also saw this
strange 'being'. Later on that same night, Mary was on the phone to Garry Wood, a
researcher and himself UFO experiencer. Just prior to the phone call, Mary had run a bath
for her son. Mary was explaining to Garry about some recent strange events when all of a
sudden she heard her son screaming at the top of his voice, "Mummy, Mummy! Come
quick, please come quick." Mary immediately threw the phone down in
mid-conversation and dashed up the stairs three at a time.
She entered the bathroom and found her son in some distress. After calming him down, he
explained that as he had entered the bathroom, he saw a small white 'being' standing next
to the wash hand basin and bath. This 'being' also had a row of teeth, was small and thin
and looked very pale. After Peter had screamed, this 'being' just simply vanished !! Mary
had to eventually sit outside the bathroom door to let her son have his bath. Indeed, he
was still so frightened, that she had to sleep beside her son with the bedroom light left
on the whole night.
SPI QUESTIONS YOUNG PETER.
Obviously, when one is dealing with young children in cases such as this, one must be very
careful. Questions have to be asked gingerly and in a manner understood by the child. I,
with the blessing of his mother, then proceeded at this point in our investigation to ask
young Peter some questions in regard to these 'beings' that he said he saw. I first of all
asked Peter if this first white 'being' that he saw outside his bedroom window whilst he
was playing with his friend, could be seen by them both. He replied, "Yes". I
then asked Peter what exactly did this 'being' look like ? Peter replied that he was
small, he had an egg-shaped head, with lots of sharp teeth in his mouth. He had oval-
shaped eyes and was very white looking. One thing I found most peculiar in Peter's
testimony (apart from the row of jagged teeth) was when Peter referred to seeing an
unusual 'flap of skin' which he saw on this 'being' between the elbow and forearm. This
'being' was also muscular, according to Peter, and there was no sign of any facial or body
GREY 'BEING' AT SCHOOL.
Dealing in cases such as this, one sometimes stumbles across pieces of information which
can be incredible and hard to believe, but because information can sound fantastic, does
this mean that there is no truth in it ? Well, what you are now about to read, truly does
sound fantastic and one can be forgiven for thinking that it is all a load of nonsense
dreamed up in a young child's mind. However, it would be wrong of me to keep this
information out of this case just because it sounds ridiculous, so here it is, for what it
At this point during our interview with Mary, Billy Devlin turned his attention back to
her son Peter and proceeded to ask questions about Peter and his school. The following
information is taken straight from our audio- taped interview.
Billy Devlin asked, "Has anything happened to you at your school?" Peter
replied, "There was a green one, a brown one, and a huge white one at school in
the classroom. These ones did not have any teeth. The grey one was holding the top of my
pencil, showing me what number to write". Billy then asked, "Did you say
anything to your pals?" To which Peter replied, "No". Malcolm
then asked, "Were you frightened?" Peter again replied,
"No". Malcolm then asked, "Did he speak to you or try to tell you
something?" "No," was Peter's reply.
Billy queried, "Why were you not frightened of that one?" Whereupon Peter
quickly said, "Because he was helping me." (Peter's tone of voice was as
if we should have known this !) Billy then said, "But surely he didn't appear just
holding your pencil?", to which Peter replied, "He came in the same time
as me". Garry Wood then said, "Do you think he knew you ? Peter
answered, "Don't know, he might have known me."
Billy then asked,"Was he with you before you went to school?", to which
Peter answered, "He was in my room before I woke up, standing near the bed". Billy
went on, "So you got up, got dressed, went downstairs. Did he follow you
downstairs?" Peter nodded his head in a yes motion. Billy went on, "Was
he there when you were eating your breakfast?" Peter replied, "Yes, he
was still standing"
Garry Wood at this point spoke up and asked, "Did you not go and tell your
Mum?", to which he replied, "No, she's pretty scared of these
things". Malcolm then asked, "Peter, how tall or short was he?"
Peter answered, "He was about the same size as me".
Billy Devlin then came in and said, "So he followed you all through that day and
helped you with your homework. Where did he go after that?" Peter then said, "He
went through the wall". Billy asked, "Did he not say cheerio or anything
before he went?" Peter replied, "No, he just turned round and walked
through the wall"
SPI also learned at this point during our discussion with Peter, that this strange
'creature' also shared his taxi on the way to school ! 'He' also shared it on the way
back! I asked Peter if, by the help of his unseen friend, he had got his sums or school
project correct, to which he replied that as yet he didn't know. I also asked Peter if he
felt that his 'unseen friend' was helpful in any way. A resounding "yes" was
Peter's reply. SPI learned that this 'creature' had also assisted Peter with another
classroom project that day, a project which concerned tissue paper (yellow and orange) to
represent flames. The project was concerning the Great Fire of London. Apparently this
'creature' had shown Peter how to cut out his tissue shapes.
It was apparent to me, that due to Peter's close proximity to his 'unseen friend,' he
surely must have been able to observe many features of this small creature, and so I
endeavored to ask him about how many fingers this 'creature' had. Peter replied that he
had three on each hand. I then asked if they were long and thin, fat or short, to which he
said that they were long and thin and did not have any nails. I then asked Peter if he
noticed any lines on 'his' hand, perhaps near the knuckles. Peter nodded yes. I then
asked, "Did you notice any veins in his hand?", to which Peter murmured, "No".
Garry Wood then asked, "Was 'his' hand warm or cold?", to which Peter
replied, "Cold". Malcolm then asked, "Did this small 'creature'
have the fold of skin that you observed with another small 'creature' ?" Peter
replied, "No". Billy Devlin then asked, "Was 'he' there when you
woke up the next day?" Peter replied in the affirmative.
ALIENS AT THE WINDOW.
If the reader finds the above hard to believe, then some might find the following even
harder to swallow. But like I mentioned earlier, SPI must present all the facts, no matter
how bizarre they may seem. It would be wrong to leave certain parts out of a case report
purely because some might find them nonsensical. I would also like to point out before I
continue that we must remember that the paranormal is full of reports of young children
witnessing all kinds of unusual phenomena. Some have had what is termed as imaginary
playmates, but as children grow older, they seem to lose this psychic faculty. Was this
the case with young Peter?
At this point in our interview there was a lull in the conversation. This was broken by
young Peter who then said, "Why don't you ask them what you want. There are
three of them standing over there". (Peter was pointing towards the living room
window). Both Billy Devlin and I, as well as Garry Wood, immediately turned our heads in
the direction in which Peter was pointing. Whilst doing so, we also grabbed our cameras.
Sadly, although we were all looking intently, we didn't see a thing. Nonetheless, both
Billy and I took many photographs of this area. I asked Peter what they were doing, what
they were saying, to which he replied, "They are just looking. I think they have
been with me all my life. I've seen shimmering all my life". Billy then asked, "How
do you know they are aliens?", to which Peter replied, "Because they look
like them", at which Billy continued, "Like aliens in the magazines and
books?" "Yes," replied Peter. At this point I asked Peter to point
again to where these three 'aliens' were standing. When he did so, both Billy and I moved
right into where they were located, again taking further photographs. Peter said that he
sometimes felt cold as he 'walked through them.' However, I never felt anything as I moved
my body in and around where Peter said that these three 'aliens' were standing. Billy had
taken several Polaroid photographs of this spot, but nothing unusual had come up on them.
I asked Peter what was happening now, now that we were more or less standing in amongst
them, and he mentioned that he could see a series of white zigzag lines in the area where
these 'aliens' were standing (again unseen by the rest of us). Malcolm then asked Peter if
they could move anything in the room. Could they move Billy's pen for instance? Peter
replied "I don't know. You might want to ask them yourself" ! I laughed,
but then said, "If there is anybody here with us, could they please move this pen (referring
to Billy's pen in front of me). I then jokingly said, "I'll be the first out of
this room if the pen moves." The pen didn't move.
At this point in the proceedings, I was intently looking at Mary to see if she was perhaps
in embarrassment at her son saying that he could see three 'aliens' in her living room.
However her face was impassive. Indeed I asked her if she could see anything in front of
the living room window. She replied that all she could see was a shimmering effect. She
knew that if she concentrated hard enough, these 'creatures' would come through, but she
didn't want this. She has also seen this shimmering effect on a number of other occasions
since the stated event. She likens it to a heat haze, that shimmering effect that you see
above a road on a hot sunny day. SPI also learned that the night Mary had stayed with her
friend, (the night of the incident), Mary kept sitting up in bed and throwing off the top
quilt from the bed. This went on for around twenty minutes to half an hour. Mary then
explained to SPI that the muscle on her right arm was very painful, and was very swollen
some days after the incident.
Malcolm then asked Mary if she had had any strange dreams after the incident, to which she
replied that there had been one or two, some with sexual overtones. She remembers walking
through various corridors, whereupon she saw a black door. She was being accompanied by a
'male' person. There was a short corridor and a marble sort of floor, and there were black
doors and silvery walls. She got to the end and saw a ladder, which she proceeded to
climb. This led her out through a hatch, where she saw an outdoor scene, which she
describes as a grassy hill or bank. A 'saucer' was sitting on the grass, which was odd,
she thought. Then she had the impression of a 'male' person doing something to her neck.
This male person explained that she might experience a very strange sensation.
Mary further explained to SPI that she has had strange dreams like this all her life!
Mary also said, that a few days after her UFO sighting, she dreamt that she was on-board a
'craft'. She was unsure if it was a 'real dream' or bits and pieces of fragmented memory
of a real event. She dreamt that she was in a room, a white room, and there were about
half a dozen of these little grey ones in there. She thought she saw a black cupboard and
bench in there. The roof appeared a darker grey, and it got lighter on the walls. She also
saw a large chair, like an office chair without the arms, and there was a brown 'creature'
sitting in it. This brown 'creature' turned to face Mary, and all the little ones were in
front of her. She then said that she went over to the brown one and started feeling his
arms. Mary's friend Jane said that she could also recall being in this 'craft', so Mary
explained to SPI that she had spoken about her dream to her friend and asked her if the
'creature's' arm felt rough and warm, to which her friend said, "You were definitely
in the 'craft'". Mary said that this 'creature's' arm felt very textured, and looked
ANOTHER TRIANGLE SIGHTING.
Mary also informed SPI that she again saw the 'black triangle' a week before our
interview. She was going to visit a friend (Sharon Coul). The object was hovering above a
field near Kennoway. She was at a higher vantage point so therefore this triangle was
actually below her. She said that it displayed two big white front lights and also a red
flashing light. It was only when she continued driving into town, that she began to lose
sight of the object, although for a short time she said that she could see it between some
Mary also explained to SPI that she felt very nervous staying alone in the house. She is
aware of things around her, especially this "shimmering", but she deliberately
ignores it. On one occasion though, she decided to let this "shimmering effect"
develop, and she said that she saw one of these 'faces' (typical grey alien face) come
straight towards her, at which point she blanked it out. She also informed SPI that she
sometimes sees something out of the corner of her eye, but when looking straight at it, it
Mary went on to inform SPI that in her house, she believes she has a ghost of a dog which
sometimes runs by her (the family don't own a dog). A few weeks prior to our visit the
family heard the sounds of this dog. The family cat shot straight out of the kitchen with
eyes as wide as saucers and its tail all bristling out. Both Mary and her husband went
into the kitchen, where they were both amazed to hear the sound of 'something' lapping out
of the cat's water dish! Nothing could be seen.
CATS AND ALIENS !!
SPI asked Peter if the cats reacted to this ghostly dog and also these 'creatures'. Did
they hiss, for instance? Peter replied that one of their two cats did indeed hiss at them,
whilst the other cat was quite content when being stroked by one of these small
'creatures' !! Mary then explained that Domino, one of their cats, a little white one,
sometimes went on the defensive on the occasions that she had seen this
"shimmering" effect. Domino would react by hissing and spitting at this
"shimmering" . One question that Malcolm posed to Mary was a question about
balls of light in her bedroom, which are sometimes seen by witnesses either prior to, or
after, a UFO event. Had she seen any of these, I asked ? She replied that she had not.
After talking with Mary about these balls of light, which she said that she hadn't
experienced, she did recount the time when strange blue lights swooped into her bedroom.
She initially thought that it must be emergency vehicles outside, like an ambulance or
police car, but on looking out the window, no emergency vehicles were to be seen. These
blue beams, Mary said, were coming into her bedroom from above and not from below (Mary's
bedroom was on the second floor). Malcolm Robinson asked, "How thick were these
blue beams that shot into your bedroom. Were they as thick as your arm" ? "Oh
yes," she replied. "These blue beams were straight and did not bend as
they came into the room". Mary remembers feeling very uneasy about these blue
beams and did what she felt was the correct action, she dived under the covers! This all
happened when Mary stayed in a house in the village of Cupar in Fife back in 1986.
On another occasion when she stayed in Cupar, she had another unpleasant experience. One
day as she went out to collect her washing, she felt a strange presence. She described it
as 'horrendous', as if it was crushing her. She has never felt anything so malevolent in
her life. By the time she had collected her washing and moved back indoors, she was so
frightened that she dropped to her knees with the tears just streaming down her face. It
took her all her time to lock the door. Her neighbours later told her that there was a
strange presence, 'out the back'. There was nothing tangible that Mary could see, but she
related that it was the sheer malevolence of this episode that completely terrified her.
It was a feeling of complete and utter hatred.
Mary then explained to SPI that she has noticed that her son Peter has become more
psychically aware over the past few months. And she remembers her son telling her that he
had seen a ghost when he was younger, a white lady, seen in a cupboard in his room. He had
been playing on his bedroom floor, said Mary, when all of a sudden a mist drifted out from
beneath this cupboard then developed into the form of a 'white lady.' Mary also told the
story that when Peter was younger, he had said to her that he could see a 'little man' in
his room. Mary had heard the sound of 'someone' or 'something' walking up the stairs, but
upon looking, nothing could be seen. On one occasion she had a cousin stay over, who,
during the night, became very scared as he heard 'someone' moving about.
MORE QUESTIONS, MORE ANSWERS.
Garry Wood asked Mary about her friend Jane, who was with her on the night in question. "How
was she taking it?" Mary responded by saying that Jane was taking it better than
she, that she had seen an awful lot more. Garry went on, "When you were looking at
the UFO on the 23rd, did you feel that you were getting any communication from it?".
Mary replied that she never got anything, she was just completely stunned.
At this point in the proceedings, I, Malcolm Robinson asked Mary, "Do you think
that what you saw is the true image of these beings, or do you think that it is something
else?". She replied that she didn't know. She felt that they were collecting
things, taking samples. She then went on to say that at one of the sites where they saw
these 'beings' (when they went back at a later date) there was a huge rock, like something
that had come out of a stone building house. This had been moved from one area to another,
very cleanly. And it was near this that Mary said that they had found an 'igloo thing' !
Mary said that when she went back to this area, not only did she see this large rock, but
she found an 'igloo thing', which was about three feet in height and was about the same
diameter. It was beautifully constructed. Malcolm asked her if perhaps this might have
been built by kids. She replied that it was really complex, really perfect. It was made
out of weeds and grasses and things, but she couldn't recall seeing any twigs. This left
her totally "gobsmacked".
Mary then informed SPI about a strange smell that pervaded the family home some days after
her UFO encounter. It was a horrible, burning, acrid smell which was all over the house.
They couldn't account for it. It smelt like burnt paper she said.
MONDAY 30th SEPTEMBER 1996.
Mary related to SPI about a strange event that had occurred on Monday the 30th of
September (about a week after the initial big sighting). She said that she was driving up
to her home when she observed what she termed as "a star" which came shooting
over from the right and curved round, almost as though it was keeping parallel with her.
She said that she then lost sight of it in the trees. She quickly went indoors and went
upstairs and looked out of a window. She then caught sight of it again as it rose above
tree level, and it just sat there twinkling. After a few minutes, a little red light flew
across and kept a certain distance from it, then the two of them moved together in tandem.
She then lost sight of the red one, but continued to see the white one twinkling away, and
then it started flashing in sequences of three (her son Peter was also witness to this).
It was at this point that she started to see something 'flash' above her head. She looked
up, and at the top of her bedroom window, she saw what she described as a
"thing" come, oh so slowly, over the top of her house. To start off with, she
said that it had two white lights that were flashing on and off at the same time, and the
object just kept coming and coming. It was shaped like a cone, and it had a big white
light in the centre, a small red light elsewhere, and another white light and possibly a
further white light near the end of this cone, although she is not really sure about this.
To the underside of this object, she described something like lumps or shapes which were
attached. It reminded her of those small structures that she had seen on some of the"
Star Wars" craft in the film of the same name. This was an amazing spectacle in a
dark starry sky.
The object kept coming slowly over the roof of her house and she noticed a further two
more white lights. The whole thing was now shaped like a big rectangle. The four white
lights on the corners were all flashing on and off at the same time. Eventually the object
cleared her roof and headed off in the direction of where she had earlier seen that small
red light, and then out in the direction of the North Sea. Mary went on to say that later
that evening other aircraft showed up in the vicinity, but these, she said, were all
normal aircraft. But it was the feeling of peace that she got whilst looking at this
strange 'craft' that she has never been able to describe. She said she felt wonderfully
happy, very calm and ecstatic. It was a tremendous feeling to see this object, a feeling
which, she states, words cannot describe.
This feeling of peace stayed with Mary for quite a number of days. The Thursday of that
same week, she and her husband saw another shape rise up from behind the trees. It started
off with a blue glow, and then it started moving about erratically. Mary stated that this
was the first time that she had seen any strange object move erratically. Normally they
moved so gracefully.
AIRCRAFT AND HELICOPTERS.
Malcolm Robinson then asked Mary if she had heard any aircraft in the area over the past
few weeks she replied, "Stacks of them." She went on to say that both she
and her friend had never known so many night- flying aircraft prior to when they had their
sighting. Mary also explained that a neighbour down the road had told her that she had
heard the constant noise of aircraft for days. Mary then related the time when she saw a
helicopter in the area, not long after her UFO sighting. She said it was during the night,
and it was flying nose down without any lights. She didn't see any markings or insignia on
it and speculates that it might have been using night-vision, as it circled over the
MARY AND HER EARLY YEARS.
Mary related to SPI that when she was growing up she had many nightmares,
especially in her Mum and Dad's house in Auchtermuchty. Then she moved to a cottage in
Monefeith (near Dundee) where she had the most horrendous nightmares. Indeed, these
nightmares became so bad, that her Mum had to wake her up as she was almost clawing her
way through the bedroom walls. Growing up, Mary showed an interest in psychic and
She has read Whitley Streiber's two books, Communion and
Transformation. Three years ago (1994) she started a subscription to Flying Saucer Review.
She also likes the Fortean Times Magazine (a journal of strange phenomena).
She was quick to point out however, that reading all these magazines and books had
nothing at all to do with her own and her friend's UFO sighting. "This really did
happen," she said." I am not making it up"..
Mary went on to discuss her friend Sharon Coul. "Sharon," Mary said,
"is a good friend to talk to". She went on to say that she had stayed with
Sharon one particular night, and that night they could both feel these 'presence's', so
much so, she said, that if one comes close to you, you feel yourself going really icy
cold, even if you are sitting next to a radiator. She also related that on one occasion,
the hairs on the backs of their hands would stick up. "It was like static
electricity," she said. Sharon's dog was also a bit upset by the 'presence's' in
the room. The following morning as both she and Sharon were having a cup of tea, the
electricity went off, the main switch had been switched off. They were both perplexed as
to how this could have happened.
OTHER POINTS THAT CAME OUT OF SPI'S INVESTIGATION.
- Mary refused SPI's help of hypnotherapy in an effort to see if there was any more hidden
subconscious information. We did inform her about the pitfalls of hypnosis and said to her
that it wasn't the best of tools. However, we did say the final decision on whether to use
it or not would be hers. Mary felt that she didn't want to explore this avenue. However,
she did accept counseling, and SPI put her in touch with an expert and qualified
counselor. (Not Quest International, I hasten to add. UFO MAGAZINE said it was they who
had got the witness a counselor. Not so. It was SPI).
- Sadly Mary refused to let SPI have access to any of her son's drawings. He had drawn a
lot on our visit, of the craft that he saw, and also the 'beings' that he saw. None of
this was given over to SPI.
- UFO sighting account forms were left for the witness and her son. She promised to
complete these and return them, but we never received these forms back.
- Essentially SPI have no written confirmation or drawings by any of the witnesses.
Thankfully we do have an audio recording of our visit that night.
- Mary explained to SPI that when she was sitting in the car looking at all these small
'beings' in the woods, she experienced the sensation that something was standing outside,
near the car. She then experienced the feeling of someone holding or forcing her head back
and felt as if she was lying on her side, but she told SPI that she was in a sitting
position in the car. She describes this episode as "really bizarre".
- The witnesses now feel that they have told their story, and they no longer wish to
discuss it anymore. They now want peace and quiet. This is a great pity, but a decision we
must respect. There are indeed a number of unanswered questions, points we would like
cleared up, but due to the witnesses refusing any further co-operation, we sadly cannot
answer those points.
6. Mary has left her Fife home, and now lives with her husband and family in Wales.
This move of house was planned prior to these UFO events and not because of them.
HOW SPI LEARNED ABOUT THIS CASE.
We learned about this case from Garry Wood, a UFO abductee from Edinburgh who has assisted
SPI a great deal with cases over the years. Garry's own case is incredible in itself, and
we thank him for letting us know about this one.
Garry informed Malcolm Robinson of some of the information that he had obtained through a
lady called Sharon Coul who lived in the Fife area. Sharon was a friend of one of the
witnesses to this case and had spoken to Garry about it. Garry had also informed me that
QUEST INTERNATIONAL were now on the case, and that Tony Dodd was the main investigator
dealing with it. I quickly phoned Tony Dodd and asked him if he could tell me anything
about the case. Indeed I wanted to know as much as possible. Unfortunately, Tony refused
to tell me anything about it, due, he said, to witness confidentiality, which I must
admit, I had no qualms about. This I respect. Indeed, we at SPI would also follow the same
guidelines should a similar case come about (if the witness requested it !). I thanked
Tony for his help and asked him to let me know as much as possible about this case on
completion of his study.
Tony had informed me that he had put a Scottish member and investigator of QUEST onto this
case, one Brian Rooney. My next call was to Sharon Coul herself, Garry's informant. Sharon
was very helpful, but could not put me in direct contact with her friend who had
experienced this strange event as she was still very traumatised . However, she did say
that she would telephone her friend, tell her all about me, and see if she would perhaps
call me direct. I thanked her for this and put down the phone. A very short while later I
received a phone call from one Mary Morrison (pseudonym), Sharon's friend and UFO witness.
She was on the phone to me for a very long time indeed, explaining all about what had
happened. As she continued recounting her experiences to me, with every sentence it was
becoming apparent that this case was not only very big, but could possibly be the biggest
case of its kind ever to have occurred in Scotland, perhaps even surpassing the Garry Wood
Mary told me about marks on the ground, small grey 'aliens', cocoons, 'creatures' in
her home, and a whole host of strange and puzzling events. By the time she had finished
talking with me, it would be fair to say that I myself was more than a little shocked. I
was honestly stunned by this startling information. I promised Mary that SPI would help
her as much as we could, and would ensure a proper and thorough investigation. Her reply
was that she would be happy to continue talking with SPI, but more than anything, she
desired counseling. She just had to talk to someone, a professional person with a medical
background, about what she had seen, and indeed was still seeing (!). I promised Mary that
I would find her someone to go to, and, true to my word, I put her in touch with a
professional counselor (name on SPI's files)
(As it turned out she didnt actually go through with this counseling)
STEPS TAKEN BY SPI TO OBTAIN MORE INFORMATION TO HELP WITH THIS CASE.
I again contacted Tony Dodd and informed him that I now had the telephone number of
Mary Morrison, one of the witnesses. He was most surprised at this as he was sure that she
wouldn't talk to anyone else, but I explained that she really needed help and was prepared
to talk to anyone who could offer this. I then asked Tony to assist SPI, by giving us all
the information he currently had, including any photographs or drawings. He replied that
he couldn't do so at the moment as all this material was required to assist in the writing
up of a case report on this event for UFO MAGAZINE. The published report about this
incident has since come out, but as yet SPI has not received any information which could
assist us in compiling our own report, and also in continuing our own investigations.
I then telephoned a local police station in the area and requested information about any
members of the public that might have phoned their station on the night of the incident,
perhaps relating their own sighting. After checking his records, he informed me that no
members of the public had phoned their station, and he was not aware of any such reports
over the past several months. I left him with my name and address to contact me should he
become aware of any such UFO witnesses. I then wrote a letter detailing my request to the
main police office in nearby Glenrothes. In their reply (see appendix), they stated that
they were not aware of any UFO incidents in the area.
Letters were also sent to the various airports in Scotland asking them if they had any
air-traffic in the area on the night in question. Calls received from these airports
stated that they had no air-traffic in my specified area. I await written confirmation
from the airports to this effect. (We received a few letters back, on file with SPI)
A letter to the British Ministry of Defence was also sent at the time of this report, but
no reply has been received. Other lines of enquiry are being looked into.
LETTERS TO OTHER SCOTS UFOLOGISTS.
Because this was proving to be such a big case, I took the step of contacting four other
Scots UFOlogists in order to ask them if their own group had any reports concerning UFO
activity in or around the date in question. Those UFOlogists were Ron Halliday of the
Scottish Earth Mystery Research group. Ron had no cases near our date. George Niedzwiedz
of Eyemouth near Berwick also said that he had none. John Jenkins of Pennicuick, West
Lothian submitted a case, but this was not near our own specified date. David Colman of
Lothian Borders Research informed SPI that he was aware of two cases near the date. This
information is currently being looked into by SPI.
INVESTIGATION OF THE AREA.
Due to work commitments by not only myself, but Billy Devlin and Iain Connon, we were
unable to quickly go to the specified areas where the events took place. However, Garry
Wood has visited these areas on several occasions. SPI finally paid a visit to the three
specified areas in January 1997. Malcolm Robinson, Billy Devlin, Stephen Black, and
channeller Graham Wylie went over the areas in question, but no physical ground traces
were found or noticed. However we did find a white fibrous substance at various areas
which we now conclude to be a normal product of the area, though we await the tests done
by Quest International to confirm this. Channeller Graham Wylie felt (as we all did) a
negative feeling at one location. Later, Graham performed a "cleansing ceremony"
at one site and he now feels that these 'beings' won't be back !! SPI aim to return to
these locations on further dates to go over the ground at great length, or to ensure that
we haven't missed anything.
CONCLUDING REMARKS BY MALCOLM ROBINSON.
Without a shadow of a doubt, this case is truly puzzling, and has all the elements of what
must be the biggest UFO event ever to have occurred in Scotland (perhaps even surpassing
the A70 UFO abduction case which occurred to Garry Wood and his friend Colin Wright) Sadly
in the Fife case, the witnesses have refrained from giving any more interviews to UFO
investigators, which is a great shame, but something that we must respect.
This does not mean to say that the case is false or did not happen. The witnesses have
told their story and would now rather forget it. I'm sure the sceptics will love this !!!
Linda Moulton Howe, the cattle mutilation and abduction expert, phoned Malcolm Robinson
from America and was speaking about this case with him for just under two hours. She gave
SPI a few tips about how to go about dealing with a case as big as this, for which SPI
Malcolm did an interview with the Herald, one of Scotland's major newspapers. Upon
publication, many other newspapers phoned Malcolm and asked him to do an interview. The
Fife Free Press, one of several papers in the Fife area, did an extremely large piece
about this case. Thankfully, they placed his phone number and address in the article. This
brought forward several other witnesses who have also seen strange triangular craft in the
Fife skies. Sadly, no one phoned who saw anything on the night in question. One witness
wrote to Mr Robinson and informed him that she saw two air force jets pursuing a dull grey
disk shaped object in the sky !! Investigations are still ongoing into this most
impressive case, and we feel that this case should be brought to your attention. UFOlogy
is for the people, and people should become aware of what's going on, and in this regard,
we submit this case for your attention. We hope you find it of interest.
Malcolm Robinson, Alloa, Central Scotland, February 1997. (c)
BUT IS THE FIFE INCIDENT A HOAX !
I wrote another article later on that year (1997) of which I had
reservations about the Fife Case being genuine. This too, caused much controversy and I
feature it below so you that you the reader can again gauge how things were shaping up at
this time concerning our feelings and Investigation into the Fife Case. I have only
deleted those parts which basically tell the story of the Fife Case (as you have read
those parts above) The parts of this article that I presume caused uproar are I guess the
parts that I now feature below. Again, another major thing, Does the headline below say
that Malcolm Robinson believes the Fife Incident to be a hoax !! No it does not. Dave
Colman maintains I said it was a hoax. I never did, I maintained as the 1997 article in
part relates that it could be which is a major and vast difference.
THE FIFE INCIDENT --- MALCOLM ROBINSON NOW BELIEVES
THAT IT MAY BE A HOAX !
R eaders of our SPI web site and also readers of UFO magazines
will no doubt have been aware of a major UFO incident which occurred in Scotland back in
September 23rd 1996. This incident has been referred to by SPI as the 'Fife Incident',
and contains accounts not only of large black triangular craft being seen by the four
witnesses, but also many small grey 'creatures' as well. Undoubtedly this case stood head
and shoulders above the many other UFO cases that had been reported in Scotland throughout
the years, and as such, was probably Scotland's biggest UFO case ever, (surpassing even
the famous Robert Taylor Incident in Dechmont Woods near Livingston West Lothian back in
Prior to SPI becoming involved, Quest International dispatched a
Scottish researcher who took soil samples and photographs. I wrote this case up for a
number of British and overseas UFO magazines, (with the permission of the witnesses
ensuring that no real names or locations were given). I also assisted BBC 2 on a
documentary about this case, (January 1998). At the time, I was as sure as I can ever be,
that Mary Morrison was telling me the truth. One may never know for certain, of course.
You can have someone tell you something with confidence and clarity, but they might be
lying through their teeth. I did not think that Mary Morrison was lying to me, (or her 1O
year old son). So what has happened for me to change my views on this ? Firstly though,
I'd like to make very clear a few important points regarding this case which some
researchers have taken me to task about, so let me make these points clear. They are:-
- The witnesses have never ever, at any point in time, either spoken to me or written to
me, to tell me that they were unhappy by my write-up of their experience. I say again, at
no time have they contacted me saying they were displeased by my write-up. The only person
to have said to me that the witnesses were displeased was another Scottish researcher by
the name of David Colman, who also part-assisted on this case. Why did the witnesses (if
they were displeased) not come to me directly and say so ? If you, the reader of this
article, were displeased with someone, wouldn't you tell them yourself, rather than get
someone many miles from you to do it for you !!!
b.) I guaranteed absolute anonymity to these witnesses, I did
not use their real names in my report, and I did not give the true location where it
happened either. Someone else gave away this location. I actually lied to many press
agencies when they were hounding me to tell them where this happened. I lied and told them
that it happened near the small town of Kennoway in Fife, (it happened nowhere near
there), such was my desire to keep true to my word and not disclose the true location.
c.) I wrote (enclosing a stamped addressed envelope) to the witnesses
asking them if it was true that they were unhappy by the SPI report of their case. They
never ever replied. I wrote twice more, no replies either.
d.) SPI were not the only research group to write about this
case. David Colman did a write up in his own UFO magazine. Ron Halliday has written about
this case in his excellent book 'UFOs--The Scottish Dimension' (Scottish Paranormal Press,
4 Linden Avenue, Stirling ,Scotland FK7 7PG, price £9:95). My only gripe about it was Ron
never mentioning the fact that SPI had researched this case , so therefore the reader is
left thinking that Ron did an excellent job on this case when in point of fact, he never
researched it, he only commented on it. !!! The Fife case has also been commented on and
written about by many other UFOlogists. Why were they not being told off by the witnesses
or for that matter Dave Colman ???
e.) According to David Colman, I was asked by the witnesses not
to talk about this case to a BUFORA International UFO Congress in Sheffield last year .
Why did the witnesses not tell me this direct, why go through Colman, something didn't
seem right. I wrote to the witnesses asking them if this was correct, they never replied.
Because of my acceptance of the BUFORA Code of Practice as far as witnesses go, I did not
speak about this case in Sheffield even although it was now common knowledge and had been
the subject of many a newspaper and radio piece. 'strange' !!!!!
f.) My report on the 'Fife Incident' is 1OO% true, why ? Because
it is word for word taken from the audio-taped account that witness Mary Morrison gave me.
Everything in my report was taken from that audio tape. And because I know this to be
true, I am prepared to give £1,OOO to any person who says otherwise and can show me,
without any problem, that there is in that report any false recounting of the witness
g.) An exhaustive Investigation was undertaken by SPI to try and
find a rational solution to this case. Checks with Airports, the police, the Met Office,
the M.o.D. and various other agencies were taken, none of which shed any real light to
explain this case. (Letters on file and available to serious researchers)
- Mary Morrison was a subscriber to a number of UFO publications prior to her UFO
sighting, (including F.S.R. Flying Saucer Review, and also Alien Encounters.) So therefore
Mary was 'clued up' on the whole UFO issue and knew exactly what UFOs and their respective
'creatures' looked like.
(i)The witness, on her own admission, bought a copy of a UFO magazine
whilst on her trip out to buy the jar of coffee. This in itself does not prove anything,
but is interesting to note.
J) Is it within the bounds of credibility, that 'perhaps'
(please note that I state perhaps) her sighting did not occur and she concocted it with
the others to test the gullibility of UFO researchers or just to see how far the story
would go. Admittedly, she didn't seek publicity and one knows that there can be many
reasons why people tell lies or spread 'disinformation'. Again admittedly, we'll never
know for sure if indeed this was the case here.
But could this whole case just be a UFO Cottingly Fairy story that went too far, hence
their reluctance to speak any further about it? And do remember that I have written
several times to these witnesses, not only asking them for more information, but also
asking them if they were, or were not, happy with the SPI case report. We know that no
replies were ever forthcoming. They might not have known the full extent of how big the
UFO issue really is in this country, and their make-believe story, (if that is what it
truly was) reached uncontrollable proportions and swelled across the globe (which it did).
Better to say nothing perhaps lest they have to come clean !!!
There are further points to which I could relate, suffice it to say,
that the above are the most relevant ones, and ones which do require to be addressed in
the sceptical climate that has been spoken about them.
I have now some very strong reservations about this case. I accept the
fact that some witnesses do see things and refuse to discuss it any further with
researchers, but something doesn't quite sit right with me on this one. At the moment, I
feel that I may never speak publicly about this case again, this after all the time,
expense, and effort that I and others in SPI have put into it. Robert Moore Editor of the
BUFORA BULLETIN, was going to do a major write-up of this case in an upcoming issue, but
had to drop this due to another contributing writer, (Kevin McClure) stating that he could
not get in touch with the witnesses to find out if their testimony were true, and as such,
felt that a major piece on this case could not be written without input of some
description from the witnesses.
At the end of the day, I accept that witnesses come first, hence I
never gave their true names away or the true location of the incident, (which is now well
known). But even so, a letter from one of the witnesses would have cleared up many issues
relating to what was right or wrong. The silence was deafening and somewhat surprising.
The 'Fife Incident' then, is one of the most perplexing cases
that I have ever worked on and I would dearly have loved to have found out more, but sadly
I never got the chance to do so. Until such times as the witnesses decide to come forward
and give more information, ( I can assure them I will not divulge their true identities or
home address), then we have to say that this case is suspicious. I've had these feelings
for some time now but never written them down, and it was only the recent E-mail from
Robert Moore which jolted me into action and writing on how I now felt. I don't think that
I am wrong to harbour these suspicions, an honest researcher must state how they feel,
even if others may now come down on my back.
Another point which 'must' be stated here, is the fact that SPI
uncovered a number of other independent UFO cases in and around this same area before,
during, and after the initial 'Fife Incident', a fact easily confirmed by another
fellow Scottish researcher, Sharon Coul, so one should bear this in mind. !
UFO sightings may be about witnesses, we record what they tell us as we
haven't a UFO to study. The study of the witness is equally important and I suggest that
fellow researchers use in their investigations, the Anamnesis Form, devised in 198O
by the late Ken Phillips. (Contact Malcolm Robinson to obtain one of these forms) This
form looks more at the witness than at what they in point of fact saw. It is a careful
evaluation of the witness asking over 6O questions relating to not only their beliefs, but
to other aspects of their life as well. This form was also devised by Dr Alexander Keul of
Salzburg University. People exaggerate, people sometimes elaborate and put arms and legs
on stories to spice them up and look more enticing, but was this the case here? I guess
we'll never 'really' know, all I can say with any certainty, is that for the first
time in any UFO case I have my doubts about a case being genuine.
Malcolm Robinson, March 1997
WAS I ALONE IS MY RESERVATIONS ABOUT THIS CASE ?
It was not only I that had reservations about the Fife Incident being
genuine, fellow researcher Brian Allan wrote the following piece only a few years ago,
this, in part, is what he had to say.
There are many puzzling aspects to this case not least the fact that
checks with the M.o.D, the Met Office, police and airports shed no light on the accounts.
All the evidence we have is either entirely anecdotal, or totally apocryphal. Whatever, it
is not the best foundation for a solid case. Other points to note are,
- Mary subscribed to a number of UFO periodicals prior to her sighting. These included
Flying Saucer Review and Alien Encounters. She also avidly read
accounts of alleged sightings and encounters in the press. One should remember that around
this time there was a considerable amount of high profile coverage of the alleged
sightings at the Scottish village of Bonnybridge. Although this in itself does not
preclude a UFO aficionado from experiencing an encounter, it does nevertheless tend to do
one of two things. Either, because the witness is familiar with UFO lore, then they would
make an excellent subject, or, because of this very familiarity they could concoct an
excellent fabrication. I do not say that this is the case, but it does fuel doubt.
Mary on her own admission bought a UFO magazine on the night of the
alleged encounter. Again this is in itself meaningless, but it is interesting to note.
The points raised do not, as I noted, mean that the alleged events did
not occur, but they do create a need to tread carefully and view the evidence (such as it
is) with detachment. There is a feeling about the case that maybe, just maybe, it
exemplifies a hoax that got out of hand and the instigators had in effect painted
themselves into a corner. They were in a position, where, because of the attention
they were receiving unable subsequently to deny it. If on the other hand it is true, then
the witnesses were extremely fortunate to have experienced an encounter of this kind. For
myself, I have to state categorically that I have deep reservations about the case.
Brian Allan (SPI Scotland)
Following on from my initial article featured in a previous SPI web site, I wrote
another piece which again is reprinted here again so that you the reader can get the full
picture of the events regarding the Fife Incident. Again, read the headline, it states is
it a hoax with question marks. Not as David Colman would have you believe it is a hoax. If
David cant spot this then what chance do we have ! (Article below from 1997)
THE FIFE INCIDENT, 'IS IT A HOAX' ?????
R eaders who regularly visit the SPI web site, will have no
doubt have seen my comments on a major UFO case that occurred in Scotland back in
September 1996, which I've termed the 'Fife Incident'. I won't go into all the details
here again, suffice it to say, you may go back to the web site where you will find the
full report. I mentioned the fact that the witnesses 'might', (and I stress 'might'),
have concocted the story as a joke, never foreseeing for one minute the immense
consequences this joke might incur. But what would prompt that joke ? What would give them
the impetus to create an elaborate hoax, (if hoax it was)? Well I would like to
present a few facts here, which might, or might not, as the case may be, be relevant to my
deliberations on this matter. I could be entirely wrong, or I could be entirely correct,
but without discussion and thought on the matter, (as is the case with most UFO
incidents), we won't ever get to the truth.
In my last writings on this matter, I mentioned that the witnesses may
have been aware of some of the UFO sightings that had appeared in the area and decided
that they too wanted in on the action, (although admittedly they did not seek public
notoriety on the issue). I was aware myself at that time of 'some' UFO sightings in
that area, and local UFOlogist Sharron Coul had reliably informed me of some of them.
However, it wasn't until fairly recently that I requested from Southampton UFOlogist Steve
Gerrard some of his many press cuttings relating to UFO sightings from Scotland (more so
from the Fife area), that I began to see that these press reports could provide the possible
stimulus for the idea.
I will now present some segments out of some of the local Fife
newspapers which 'might' have given rise to and prompted the notion of a practical
joke. Our first press report comes in fact from the Aberdeen Press & Journal
Newspaper, although they had obtained this information from one of the Fife Newspapers.
Remember the 'Fife Incident' occurred on the 23rd of September 1996.
ABERDEEN PRESS & JOURNAL 10TH SEPTEMBER 1996 [PAGE 9].
ANOTHER FIFE UFO SIGHTING.
A nother Fife man claims to have seen a UFO only days after a similar
sighting was reported in Dundee and Glenrothes. Mark McRobbie (24) says he watched two
identical triangular lights travel at an amazing speed across the sky a few weeks ago.
"It was about 11pm and I was sitting at home watching T.V. with the curtains open
when something caught my attention out of the corner of my eye," said Mark.
"There were two objects, one was over the primary school, and the other was over
Clunie Woods. They both looked identical and had a white glow and made no sound. Visually
they looked about 3 inches long but they were several miles away. I ran upstairs to get a
better look and watched them hover for about 40 seconds. Then the one over the school
darted across the sky without a sound, travelling what must have been miles in only a few
seconds, and joined the other one over the woods. The last I saw of them was when they
both disappeared down behind 'the trees'."
As we know from the 'Fife Incident', the witnesses claimed to have seen
a large black triangular shaped object in the sky which moved very fast, plus the fact
that many other strange incidents occurred in and around some woods near Newton Of
Falkland in Fife. The Aberdeen Press & Journal can be obtained from newsagents in Fife
so they could have possibly been aware of this story.
FIFE FREE PRESS, 13TH SEPTEMBER 1996, [PAGE 4].
THE SKY'S THE LIMIT IN THE HOLIDAY TRADE. UFO SIGHTINGS EVEN PULL IN
I t's been a hot summer for tourists in Kirkcaldy this year. Initial
indications suggest the 'Lang Toun' and its surrounding area proved to be a bigger tourist
trap in 1996 than in previous years, and according to one worker at Kirkcaldy's Tourist
Information Office, visitors reckon the area's attractions are simply "out of this
world". "Some people asked where they could go to see the UFOs," said the
assistant who discovered that the potential travellers had heard of recent news reports
surrounding strange objects in the skies above Kirkcaldy, and she revealed, "We
referred them to the Fife Free Press office and they called back to book
The assistant explained that over a very busy summer, enquirys had come in from
as far afield as Russia, Canada, and the United Arab Emirates.
Again we can see from the above press report that UFOs were big news in the Kingdom of
Fife during 1996, so much so, that news regarding them had spread far afield. It was the
'talk of the town' so to speak. Indeed, even before I became aware of the 'Fife Incident',
I had investigated a very interesting UFO case which occurred near the town of Glenrothes
in Fife in which 2 large,bright balls of light travelled swiftly towards and over the roof
of a car in which 2 men were I driving late one evening. This culminated in strange
tubular lights being witnessed by both these men above the grass verge at the road side.
Admittedly this particular case was not featured in the press.
FIFE FREE PRESS 17TH SEPTEMBER 1996.
FIFE MAN TELLS OF 'TRIANGLE' IN SKY.
O nly a day after reports of the Douglas area of Dundee being buzzed by a
UFO, a man from Glenrothes came forward with his tale of a similar experience. Edward
Preston was standing outside his house at around 9pm last Sunday. "I was watching the
sky in the west trying to catch a glimpse of the planet Jupiter when I noticed it. The
shape caught my attention first of all, a perfectly equilateral triangle. I've seen jets
before and none of them are perfect triangles, the cockpit normally juts out, but this was
like nothing that I've ever seen before. It wasn't matt grey, because I could make out the
texture on the bottom with my binoculars. The aircraft, or whatever it was, moved from the
west to the east over my house, the sighting only lasting about 8 to 10 seconds because I
called my wife when it first came into view, but by the time she had got outside it was
disappearing in the distance"
"Because I don't know the size of the craft I can only guess, but it would appear
to have been flying at about 1000 feet. This was one of the things that struck me as
strange, especially as the craft did not make a sound. It was not a case of seeing strange
lights because there were no lights to be seen on the craft, the only reason I spotted it
at all, was because it was a beautifully clear night and the moon was shining right on
it." A spokesman from RAF Leuchars said today that they had no aircraft over
Glenrothes at that time on Sunday night. This sighting was reported only a day after
lights spotted over Douglas, and only a month after a strange light was reported in the
sky over Arbroath, and follows numerous unexplained sightings of lights over Tayside
and Fife earlier in the year.
So, dear reader, were these UFO press reports (and others), the
stimulus which gave the idea to the witnesses in the 'Fife Incident' to concoct a story ??
Well like I've said before, I guess we'll never really know for sure as the witnesses have
refused to become any further involved with their case. Admittedly, and I must say it
again, they did not seek publicity, but their story leaked out and eventually found its
way to me. Of course we can look at it another way here. The above press reports (and
others) may only serve to confirm the witnesses' claims of UFO activity in their area, and
so 'enhances' their claim that what in fact they saw, other people were seeing as well.
Let us not forget this fact.
At the end of the day, as a researcher, I must present all the facts,
no matter how uncomfortable those facts may be. I must see fit to present all and any
facts of a case to you, the enquiring individual, and not present only those facts, which
would benefit and fuel your enquiring mind. I come in for a lot of stick in regards to my
own thoughts and writings on UFOlogy, but I only do it for the betterment of the subject.
We have to look at all UFO cases from ALL angles, and not the angles that may suit our own
needs and desires. The 'Fife Incident' then is a case in which we must leave the back door
open in regards to other ideas and opinions. Is it a hoax ?? At the moment the jury is
out. I ask you to weigh up all those options and question things yourself, for without an
open and enquiring mind we may never uncover what is behind this elusive phenomenon.
(My thanks to Steve Gerrard for sending on those Scottish UFO press
So that was how I wrote the Fife Incident up back in 1997. Have my
opinions changed as to whether the case is a hoax or not ! Well honestly I really
dont know, here in 2003 I am sitting on the fence. Its such a shame that the
witnesses didnt meet up with SPI for further talks, we could have gained so much
more and been in a better position to determine the truth of the matter. Its very
important to re-iterate that after many many letters to the witnesses asking them to meet
for further interviews, we didnt get any replies. Not even a reply to say Please
dont contact us any more. We did say to the mother of the small son of whom we
interviewed that we would be writing this case up hoping that it might generate more
people to come forward who might also have seen the events of that night. We stressed that
we would give them a false name and not state where in Fife they lived, hence I lied to
the press for the first time in my life. (Copy of that newspaper can be sent to any
serious inquisitive researcher to back up my claims.) The headline stated UFO lands Near
Kennoway, I lied and said thats where it occurred to ensure no one from the press
went snooping in the area where it really did happen and try and find our witnesses.
NEW WITNESS INFORMATION RECEIVED BY MALCOLM ROBINSON CONCERNING THE
This case really didnt come back into the public
domain until the end of August 2003 when David Colman began to make statements about the
SPI handling of this case. Prior to this however, on the 14th of January 2002 I
received through the post from Larry Dean the gentleman who received the original phone
call from Mary Morrison on that fateful night back in September 1996, numerous
documents/statements, some original hand-written testimony from not only Mary Morrison of
whom SPI had spoken in person to, but original hand-written testimony from Jane
(Marys friend and whom we never got the chance to Interview). Also Peter'
original hand written account and also Susan (Janes daughter). Susans
testimony was very little and just mentioned a very few salient points and was nothing
like the long text of her mother.
Anyway, for the very first time anywhere, what follows is word for word
the exact text as written by (ALL) the witnesses in this incredible case. We start firstly
with the testimony of Mary Morrison herself. This is how she recorded it on a BUFORA (!)
UFO Witness Account Form.
TESTIMONY OF MARY MORRISON. (Photo copy)
"Travelling to shop at Freuchie with my friend Jane and son
Peter to but coffee. Just leaving Newton of Falkland I see a very large bright white light
above some trees around a farmhouse on the left-hand side of the road. It was stationary
which I thought very odd, as it didnt move at all. As we got closer I realised that
there were two massive lights not just one. They were then pointing at the ground as if
searching for something. I said to Jane, "Look at those funny lights on that
aeroplane". I wanted to know if she would see what I seemed to be seeing. She looked
and replied, " Mary thats not a plane". By this time we were close enough
to see that it was a very large craft."
"I stopped the car at the entrance (open) into the field parallel
to the craft. I got out the car, and, standing by the drivers door looked at the
craft. I saw a large black triangular craft, which was silent. The large white lights were
no longer pointing at the field and appeared to have been dimmed. There was the noise of
an aircraft behind me but nothing from the craft, which was banking round and levelling
out in front of me. There was a red light at the corners of the craft and two others went
on in each corner making a total of three in each. I got back in the car saying that it
must be a plane even though it obviously wasnt. Then we all got out of the car and
stood at the edge of the field to watch. We were very excited and couldnt understand
why none of the cars passing seemed to notice it. I told Jane that apparently if you waved
to a UFO then it would maybe signal back. By this time the craft had moved slowly further
away from us with only its red lights on. At one point I changed my car lights from
main to dip or vice versa and the craft flashed back to us. We decided to continue to the
shop, we were extremely excited. I said that this sighting was important and we had to
report it and asked my son the time. It was 8:05pm. As we left, the craft flashed
its lights. Returning from Freuchie, Jane and Peter were watching to see if they
could see it again. They saw it. I stopped the car, it came towards us very fast lighting
up. My son went into hysterics and the craft jumped back into the distance.
This was about 8:20pm/8:25pm. Continuing to Falkland we telephoned SKYSEARCH from Falkland
then returned to Janes house and told Susan her 15-year-old daughter what we had
seen. She wanted to see it so we went back leaving about 9:45pm. (Peter said he would be
"We didnt see the craft, but an intense white large light in
the woods on our left and a huge blue glow in and above the trees. I drove onto a narrow
back road which goes from Freuchie to Dunshalt to see if we could see it better from the
other side, (Ive just realised how dangerous this sounds!) There, I stopped the car
and we watched a white light as wed already seen (like a star) and could see a blue
glow in the trees to the right. Jane and Susan said there were other stars in
the air all around us. We then saw the silhouettes of beings at the base of
the star. One tall and at least three short. They were moving and leaving and
returning to the field of light. We also saw beings silhouetted in the blue
glow, they were also moving. The others
(My photo copy of Marys report was squint and some of the text
was off the page so some of the following sentences may not read quite correct)
"coloured beams of light coming from the star. Jane and Peter were so moved by
them they were crying. At this time I was looking into the white light and could see it
pulsing occasionally. It would grow brighter and larger then sometimes fade
away to look like a dull orange spikey ball. Then I saw the light beams too. They were
emitted from the tip of the star not the center. They went right up into the
sky like a laser beam widening as they ascended. They were red blue and green, not solid
beams, but opaque or translucent. We returned to Falkland once again phoning SKYSEARCH
when we were advised to return with binoculars/cameras if possible. At about 11:00pm
Janes brother visited her. We told him what had occurred and he said hed loan
us his binoculars. Travelling to this home at ****deleted*** the others in the car were
saying that there were lots of stars following us in the air. I could see one
on the hill to the right of the radio masts which was flashing in bursts. Returning from
***deleted*** we were not apparently followed in this manner. We drove on through Freuchie
till just before the Newton of Falkland. I stopped the car opposite an opening between a
stone wall and the hedge. We could observe again the first star and the huge
blue glow without the binoculars. I could see a tall being to the right of the
star. He had his back to it with his right side towards us, his profile showed
an enlarged cranium towards the rear of his head which wasnt so apparent when he
faced towards us. He was brown with a hint of orange."
"Between him and the star was a small round object the same colour as
him on the ground, which was nearer the star. I could also see other
beings smaller than him silhouetted by the star. At one point, the tall one
moved in front of the star and stood as if discussing something with the smaller one. The
small ones seemed to be the same shape as the big ones. Jane focused the binoculars on the
star and was shocked, she said, "Wait till you see this, its not a
star". Eventually I got a shot of the binoculars and I was just as shocked as Jane.
The star was an orange, slightly elongated ball above the ground with large
dark, irregular indentations on its surface. It also had a black horizontal
opening (?) near its base. It was rotating and tilting slightly on
its axis as it did so. Looking then at the blue glow through a gap in the trees, I
could see a large black structured shape. I cannot tell what it was or its exact
shape but the glow was behind it. There was one tall being standing next to
the trees and one quite a bit further back on the left of the clearing. There were many
small ones moving fast. They were carrying boxes and cylinders and picking them up and
putting them down in different places. I saw the tall being on the right of this clearing
bend down and stretch out his right hand and arm towards something, then stand up again.
He moved into the thicker trees to the right then returned to his original place."
"Jane used the binoculars next, then myself, then Susan then Peter then Jane
again. At the end, Jane was saying "Theyre coming out of the trees towards us,
my God theres hundreds of them". Shes also described these
beings as inside some sort of cocoon. Susan had agreed with her, she was able
to see without the binoculars. Whilst Jane was talking about them, I could also hear Susan
saying the same things. I couldnt see anything and was feeling very panicky. Then
Susan was saying "Theyre here, theyre right next to us", and Jane
screamed to get out of there. I had the impression of lots of large round straw bales in
the opening of the field, which were very close to us. I was terrified and took off very
fast. Id left the car running with the lights on. The others were looking back. Jane
and Susan saw the whole field light up in a massive blue flash, (they shouted to me about
it) and Peter said he saw the sky light up in the same way at that moment."
"Back at Janes we all stayed in the living room, we were extremely
traumatised. Jane and I didnt sleep but the children did. It was then that I
realised that the tall being in the clearing had seemed to be about half the height of the
trees. On the Tuesday, Jane and Susan were describing the beings saying that their eyes
were slanted. Peter said yes and they had three fingers. This I dont understand as
we were too far away even with the binoculars to make out such detail. When I spoke about
the bales, Jane and Susan said "That was them, they were in those cocoon
things". On passing the field there certainly wasnt any bales at the opening
and not in the numbers I saw at the end of all our sightings before taking
flight. Id felt as though I somehow wasnt seeing correctly and that my eyes
were sort of twisting or being pulled round. The entire episode ended very
strangely indeed for me. We returned to Janes about 12:35pm approximately."
Well quite a shocking report there from Mary, and something entirely
different from the usual run of the mill UFO encounter. If this is true, then clearly this
must rank as the biggest UFO event ever to have occurred on British soil !
TESTIMONY OF PETER. (Marys ten year old son) (Original hand
"The first time we seen the craft was where my mum seen this thing hovering over a
field outside the Newton of Falkland. It had two huge lights shining down on the field. We
stopped and got out of the car. As we got out we heard airplane. Then the craft turned off
its lights and went away. The second time we seen it was when we were on the way
back. It came towards us and I started screaming. When I started screaming it put off
its lights and took off"
We see in Peters testimony above, his documentation of the
initial encounter but he doesnt relate to any of the other events of the night,
certainly not in the documents submitted to me by Larry Dean. Whether Peters report
was done with his mother in attendance I dont know.
TESTIMONY OF JANE, (MARYS FRIEND) (Original hand written
"On Monday evening 23rd September, my friend pointed out an aircraft in
the sky. I knew instantly that it was not an airplane. We witnessed a second sighting 15
minutes later. We returned to my house and was extremely excited but a feeling of fear was
present also. We returned to the place of sighting and saw a star image, which was more
beautiful than anything I could ever have imagined to be. I was very overcome by emotion
and a deep inner yearning to be within the whatever it was that I could see. Once again we
returned to my home and returned yet again as we had to go back, none of us really wanted
to return as we all experienced feelings of fear but we were drawn back."
"This time I was taken and saw and heard creatures I would never have
believed to exist. I was very angry as my friend would not stop the car quick enough for
me and my personality turned very aggressive which is not normal to my nature. I know I
have not underwent a hallucination as there were 4 of us present who reassured me I
wasnt crazy, but I thought to begin with that I had gone mentally disturbed. When we
left the final time I was filled with an inner terror that was really traumatic. I have
been shown such more beauty in the past few days that I am still trying to adjust and
accept this to be true, but I know it is very real and I feel as if my purpose on Earth
has a new meaning and I have been chosen for some special reason to aid to abolish all
hurt and negative tendencies towards others."
"I am finding this extremely difficult to describe on paper as what I have seen is
far too precious and awesome to describe in any detailed form. I just would not be giving
any form of justice to the wonder of it all. I still have a slight feeling of fear but I
am emotionally shocked and I know I have changed. I know what I have seen is real. I want
to guide everyone towards believing that something wonderful is here and to help them
understand that the world we dwell in has far more in content than they see. I dont
comprehend why or what I have to do yet but I am trying not to question why or what is to
become as I cant cope with the strain. I am telling myself to accept each opening as
it occurs as it is not going to vanish, it is real, it is here, it always has been
present, I have just never had the ability to acknowledge its presence. I still wish
that it had not happened to us, I deeply resent the invasion to my life, but I am
attempting to accept that this was meant to be and that I am not a lunatic of any
"My friends have noticed a change in my character and I have had to tell them
falsities to explain my emotional state of being. Before Monday I would have mocked anyone
who witnessed what I did, as I just held no belief what so ever in anything to do with
what I myself have seen. I will attempt to tell you what I have experienced".
"The craft or air-ship-whatever I am to call it, was a triangular base with an
oval shape on top. It supported two incredible huge white lights that I never saw till
Mary my friend drew my attention to. I knew instantly it was not normal but I wasnt
amazed, it was as if I knew it was meant to appear. The object disappeared and we drove
away. We had all got out of the car, which I find odd as I know we should have been scared
but we werent. We went to the next village to purchase coffee, the purpose wed
left my home to do. On our return we saw a light in the distance and knew it was the same
object, it advanced towards us. Mary and I became over wrought with excitement, it was
unbelievable. Peter Marys 10 year old son was filled with terror as it advanced and
lit up such a beautiful show of lights, when Peter expressed his fear the lights went off
and the object backed off at great speed. We went to my home and calmed Peter. We told my
daughter what we had seen and returned and Peter agreed to come. We told him if his fear
returned we would leave immediately. This is when we saw the stars. (I know
they werent stars but at this time I believed them to be). They were brighter than
any light I have ever seen before and so beautiful. There were beams of red and green
light being thrust up into the sky. I was so overcome with emotion that I cried at their
beauty as did Peter."
"I was hanging out the car window shouting that they were beautiful, it was
wondrous. There were beings under the star shapes that I knew were not humans.
One tall brown one and small grey ones were present. We returned to my home, I borrowed
binoculars from my brother and we all returned for the final experience. This is when I
got taken by the creatures. I looked at the one remaining star through the binoculars and
saw what it really was. There was a brown textured transparent circular cocooned object
with small beings inside it. There was an orange ball of light behind the circular object
and a round light at the right hand side and a brown tall being standing
there. To the left of this there was a spacecraft and these creatures were going in and
out of the craft carrying boxes and canisters. There were beings coming
towards us in illuminous egg shaped cocoons. In between this I was taken over and the
brown one was in charge. The small ones communicated in a dolphin like sound, they were
kind of joyous to watch."
"I didnt feel fear. I was in the car and was terrorised and screamed at Mary
to leave. I have seen more since. I saw a land that wasnt our land, it was an
extremely emotional experience. Mary was with me but could not see anything apart from a
grey sky. I wish she had been allowed to see it. I knew I had to go but I didn't want to
leave. I was filled with love for here and there but the love for what I saw was deeper
but I couldn't leave the ones I loved here. I wasn't ready but oh my God I can't tell you
how much I wanted to go. I feel as if I am going crazy as I recall all the happenings but
it was there. I was filled with such longing and love, I was crying and wanting to go but
I didn't want to leave my children behind. The following evening I saw a monitor on the
bedroom ceiling and there were different beings'. I told them I believed they
were there but please leave me Im too mentally and physically exhausted to cope with
any more. They took me to sleep as I felt they came with me. I know that a presence is
around me all the time. I am attempting to the best of my ability to accept all this. It
is so difficult to readjust into this new way, but I know it is really there. I aplogise
if this does not sound clear but I have tried my best to enlighten you of my
Well again wow. !!! None of this was known to me until last year 2002
and stands head and shoulders above what I originally had from Mary Morrison and her son.
This testimony from Jane, (as one can see from the text above) is emotional, its
written with intensity, and one clearly gets the feeling loud and clear of a woman who is
either telling it as it is, or is spinning a yarn fashioned with UFO terminology such like
space craft, dolphin like sound wanting to go with them to
their wondrous land. That said though, this should not in any way detract from
what could well be a true experience. To see something as amazing as this must have been
incredible. How would You put this down in words, it must be hard. Jane claims
in her testimony above that she was taken and yet as far as the others were
concerned, she was right there in the car with them all along. Seasoned UFO researchers
will be reminded of the Australian UFO case which centered around one Maureen Puddy ( a
repeater abductee) who took some UFOlogists out in her car as she was going to meet
aliens. They stopped the car and Maureen said "Theyre here".
Both UFOlogists saw nothing and Maureen slumped in her seat afterwhich she came too and
said she was taken. Was something similar in operation here in the Fife case
!! Will we ever know. ! Jane also states above that she found herself in a wonderful land
along with Mary. ! It is such a shame that SPI did not have the opportunity to interview
Jane about her own experience that night, we could have asked so much more questions.
Janes report (as with Mary and Peters, has drawings of the object and the
small beings). Janes testimony is certainly an emotional piece of
something that has affected her with intensity.
I also received from Larry Dean, the original hand written UFO sighting
Account Form of Susan, Janes daughter but it contained no long text of her
experience at all. Just minimal words in the boxes of the form asking for relevant details
ADDRESSING COMMENTS & CLAIMS FROM DAVID COLMAN.
O.K. its now time to look at some of the other claims coming from
researcher David Colman.
- SPI WERE BOOTED OFF THE CASE BY THE WITNESSES. (Dave Colman)
Oh dear sounds true eh! Especially as we only had one visit with two of
the witnesses. OK lets have a look at this statement shall we. We, that is SPI,
learned of this case through Sharon Coull a local UFO enthusiast who mentioned that Garry
Wood who I interviewed for a major UFO Incident that occurred to him, was dealing in part
with this Fife Case with Sharon. I remember my long phone calls with Sharon at that time
and asked if SPI could become involved. A few days later Sharon called and said that Mrs
Mary Morrison had agreed to meet up with SPI to discuss the incidents. Now please will you
bear this in mind.
(a) I stated to Mary quite categorically that I would use this report in our SPI
magazine of that time ENIGMAS, but I would give all witnesses a false name and not mention
where in Fife the incident occurred. SHE WAS ENTIRELY HAPPY WITH THIS AND SAID SO TO ALL.
The reason I gave Mary for me doing a report on this case, was because it might illicit
more response from the local people and we might gain more witnesses to substantiate her
claims. With me so far, have you any problems with this reader !
After the first visit Mary moved house down to Wales and we didnt have a contact
number for her. She had all SPI details and never, I repeat never (and lets stick in
a ever) spoke, phoned, wrote to SPI saying that she wasnt happy with our write up on
the case. She never said I am booting you off the case and turning to another. There was
absolutely no communication ever again from Mary Morrison to SPI, just it would seem,
though Dave Colman.
(2) WITNESSES FIRST MEDIA SECOND SAYS DAVE COLMAN.
While I readily agree with Dave Colmans sentiments above. As
Ive stated above, we ensured that the witnesses would not be identified by real name
or real location. SPI did go to the media for the reasons explained above, and wait for
.due to going to the media MORE UFO reports were forthcoming. Has the
reader a problem with this !
(3) ALL WITNESSES REFUSED ANY MORE INTERVIEWS WITH SCOTTISH OR ENGLISH
UFO RESEARCHERS. (Dave Colman)
This is Davids biggest grudge. So let me explain this one. The
statement above was true at the time of the SPI Interview conducted with witness Mary
Morrison. We didnt know that Dave Colman was waiting round the corner to get
involved. If we did, I wouldnt have written the statement above. So it was true at
the time. I am the only Scottish researcher ever to have helped Dave with this case. I
turned over to him my entire fife files, press reports, other UFO sightings, and a copy of
the interview we did with Mary and her son. Admittedly I charged him £6:00, but that was
to cover all the photocopying costs. David thanked me for this in an e-mail submitted to
Malcolm Robinson dated 20th October 2003. (Copy on file) I asked David to
return the favour when his report was finished, since 1997 I have received no such report
from Dave and I am still waiting for this.
(4) THE SPI INVESTIGATION OF THE FIFE CASE WAS A SHAMBLES AND WAS MORE
AKIN TO AN INTEROGATION THAN A SERIOUS ASSESMENT OF THE FACTS. (Dave Colman)
Wow, another big statement from the man that knows ! At no time during
the interview with Mary or her son did she stop to complain or say thats it.
Indeed, I was conscious of the time marching on and didnt want to keep her any
longer and terminated the interview when I had so many more questions to ask her. The
above is Daves opinion and thats fair enough. But it is so wrong its
- SPI ONLY PAID ONE VISIT SO THE SPI REPORT IS AN INACCURATE PICTURE OF THE FIFE INCIDENT
EVENTS (Dave Colman)
Wait for it
.TRUE, completely and utterly TRUE. I have said
many times that the information about the Fife Case was based on only one visit, I have
never said otherwise, to say otherwise would be to lie. We only paid ONE visit. Admittedly
in that ONE visit we still managed to cover a heck of a lot of ground all captured on
audio tape the base-core facts of the initial encounter and subsequent reports. Plus some
of the information was also gleamed from discussions that I had on the phone with witness
Mary Morrison. So the SPI report is as true as the day is long with the facts related by
Mother and son. Nobody knows the full extent of the Fife Incident because David
hasnt submitted his own case report of the events I havent seen his account
(has anyone else !) If he has finished his report since 1997, and one would presume so,
then please let the public see it please.
(6) SPI BADGERED THE WEE BOY. (Dave Colman)
Although I am not a psychologist I am not that naļve to know how to
talk to a child (I have three of my own). I passed the BUFORA Investigators code of
practice and went on to run the course for BUFORA in Scotland myself. I have been speaking
to witnesses for over 20 years from young to old and I would like to think that I know how
to talk to juveniles. At no time did I or anyone from SPI that night badger as
Dave puts it, the wee boy. I asked Mary his mother, if it would be OK to speak to her son,
"Of course" was her reply. Again, I have audiotape proof that the
interview conducted on that night, which in part features our discussion with the boy, is
in no way OTT or out of place. So this statement from Dave is nonsense.
(7) THE WITNESSES CALLED ME (D.C.) AS I HAD PROFESSIONAL ABILITIES AND
COULD HELP THEM WHERE YOU AND OTHERS HAVE FAILED AND DESPITE YOUR MEDDLING IN THE CASE I
HAD SUCCESS IN THAT REGARD. (Dave Colman)
Lovely. Again, SPI did not know that Dave Colman was soon to become
involved in the case as it was at this time that the witnesses we spoke to moved away.
David I believe is a qualified psychiatric nurse with Im sure, a good head on his
shoulders and knows how to conduct himself, (I surmise this as I dont really know)
Fair play to Dave, he tracked down the witnesses and offered his services and they took
it. But wait, did you know
that SPI just before the witnesses moved to Wales,
gave the witnesses the details of another qualified practitioner who I believe Mary went
to see but didnt really like and I think he charged too much money if my memory
serves me correct. SPI actually tried to get them help first sadly he wasnt the one
to help them and Im glad that Dave did. Because one thing is for sure, she sure was
(8) I WAS CONSTANTLY APPEARING IN THE MEDIA WITH MY SKEWED VERSION OF
EVENTS. (Dave Colman)
Dear dear. As stated above, all the facts gleaned from our one visit to
the witness were initially put out in my written report. As for my media appearances on
the Fife case which were few and far between, my statements related to the facts that were
given over to me and again I respected the witnesses wishes of annonminity. Where they
were skewed, Dave would need to elaborate on that one.
- I (Malcolm Robinson) STATED TO THE MEDIA THAT THE WHOLE THING WAS A HOAX. (Dave Colman)
Where ? When ? I put out a written report (part of which is
featured above that I thought it might be a hoax but that I didnt have
any such proof to indicate that it was so, just speculation.) I never ever said it was an
out an out hoax. Today (October 2003) I still dont know. Does Dave !
- THE WITNESSES HAVE WRITTEN TO ME TO COMPLAIN ABOUT ALL YOUR (Malcolm Robinson) DABBLING.
This I would be interested to see, show me proof Dave for
until I see it I wont believe this. I repeat my earlier statements above. At no time
ever has the witnesses contacted me to complain. We are hearing this purely from one David
Colman. Quite suspicious one would think.
- THE MEETING THAT NEVER WAS.
Things were getting a bit silly between Dave and I some years ago. So
on my suggestion I suggested a meeting in the town of Stirling where both Dave and I could
air our views in the company of other Scottish UFOlogists. I wrote to a number of Scottish
UFOlogists and most of them said that they would be happy to come along. And Dave,
..He called me a weak and pathetic man and refused to attend this meeting. A
meeting which would have given both of us an opportunity to show our evidence. But no,
Dave would have none of it. I have suggested a further meeting of minds (October 2003) and
yes, youve guessed it. Dave refuses to attend if it is in the company of other
UFOlogists and if its filmed. What does this tell you dear reader !!
I have reluctantly agreed to meet Dave on my own as he says this is the
main condition that we meet alone and with no prying ears to hear what we have to say.
What is he frightened of ? Has he got something to hide that will be unmasked in front of
others ? Yes Ill meet him alone, because at the end of the day I have nothing to
hide, but does he.
THE FULL TRANSCRIPT OF THE FIFE TAPE WITNESS INTERVIEW.
I was going to finish this report on the Fife Incident with a summing
up on the facts above but decided that there was one more piece of this jigsaw that you
the public have never seen, and that is a word for word transcript of the Fife witness
interview audio tapes. This admittedly, was the basis of my main article but it contains
many aspects of the case of which the witnesses themselves state happened. Admittedly, and
honestly before you read the transcript of this interview, there are certain things that
you the reader need to know, and they are.
- We believed that we would be coming back to interview the family again and so
didnt ask so many of the questions relating to the actual main incident. At this
juncture we were trying to find out about the case, but also about the witnesses
themselves as well. Their life style, their belief systems, if they were deeply involved
in the subject prior to the events. The deeper questions relating to the main
case were going to be asked on our second visit, and this first visit was solely for back
ground data, plus we were very conscious of the fact of time, and not taking too much of
the witnesses time as I know only too well that people have other things to do and we have
to be aware of that. Of course, we never got that second visit for reasons that are
debatable, and again, the witnesses never contacted SPI again either to say we want you
back or we dont want you back. !
- That said, the SPI Investigation of this case was more than these two C-90
audio tapes, they were also the result of interviews with Mary over the phone, and Mary
called me and I called her several times about certain key issues of the case.
- Because Garry Wood got SPI on this case through Sharon Coul, Garry is heard asking the
witnesses on the audio tape, several questions, some might same leading questions and I
may have to agree with that. Garry himself was one of the witnesses in the famous A70 UFO
Abduction case in 1992 which probably is Scotlands most famous UFO abduction case
ever, certainly that we know about at present. Because Garry himself has had his own very
traumatic experience, he himself is looking for answers and his questions to Mary can be
felt in the light of his own experience looking for perhaps an added
acceptance to what happened to him.
- Prior to the interview, I did ask Marys permission to interview her son and this
So now let me take you the reader to that eventful night where SPI sat
with faces in awe as an unbelievable story unfolded. This is what was said.
INTERVIEW CONDUCTED 27TH OCTOBER 1996 AT WITNESSES HOME IN
FIFE CENTRAL SCOTLAND.
(MR) Malcolm Robinson.
(BD) Billy Devlin.
(MM) Mary Morrison.
(PM) Peter Morrison.
(GW) Garry Wood.
(MR) "Mary, we are here today to talk to you in regards to what
could be termed a UFO Observation that you had along with your son and a
family friend. Would you just like to tell us, what started the day, how were things
before the incident started ?."
- "It was a perfectly normal sort of evening other than my friend had run out of
coffee so we decided to go along to the local shop and buy some. And on the way there,
there was a huge bright white light just stationary in the sky. I caught sight of it as I
was driving. And I looked at it, thinking that it was just a plane or a helicopter or
something and that was when I realised that it wasnt moving. And we got closer, and
this bright light resolved into two bright white lights. And I said to my friend, look at
those funny lights on that aeroplane over there. She looked, and she paused for around 2
or 3 seconds and she said, thats not an aeroplane. And I said, I know, because at
this time we realised that it wasnt moving aeroplanes dont do that. It
wasnt a helicopter, it was just massive lights. And by this time we had become
parallel to it. We stopped the car and we looked. I got out the car at the drivers
door and stood there looking up at this thing. Then got back in the car and I
said "It must be an aeroplane", my friend said "Its not an
aeroplane", and at that point we all got out the car and we stepped across the
pavement (sidewalk) to the edge of the field and we were standing watching this thing just
above us and in front of us, and it was just amazing."
"Initially it was just hovering and there were these massive like
bright spot lights pointing straight down. The beams were really big, they actually
(BD) "The beams crossed over !"
- "Yeah, so they werent actually separate beams. Well they were separate beams
but they actually (Couldnt make this part out on audio tape) And when I first
got out of the car it had actually started to switch off these headlamps as
you might call them, and it had banked onto its side so what was presented to me was
the underside, it was just a huge triangle, black triangle. And at that point it had a red
light at the corners and as it had been banking it had also been turning the headlamp end
away from me, just very very slowly, so slowly and gradual. And as it was doing this it
switched these big bright white lights off completely and other red lights came on in the
corners and there were 3 in total in each corner. And it was just like it was floating it
just gradually drifted away."
(MR) "Were there any noise associated with this object ?"
- "No. Originally when I got out of the car myself, I heard an aircraft, there is
always a lot of aircraft going over here, but it wasnt coming from that and it was
(MR) "Did you notice any piping or any protrubance underneath this
object or was it
- "No it was just
..All I could see was that it was completely black apart from
the lights. It did have on top like a sort of dome which started off, well I call it the
front end and it sort of sloped up curved up and had this sort of sloping door on the top.
And I recently saw pictures or re-constructions of the Belgian triangle and it wasnt
like that. I cant remember what was at the back of it I cant remember that
area of it at all. It was just quite a shock to see it all."
(BD) "Have you tried drawing it yourself ?"
- "I have, but I dont have it at the moment."
(MR) "At a rough estimate. How high would you say this object was
when you are out of the car at this time and you are looking at it ?"
- "Well initially before sort of getting parallel to it I could actually see it
above, I could see the light above and beyond a farmhouse and of course the farmhouse with
some trees was at the side of the road and it was actually above that. I couldnt
estimate how high it was at all."
(MR) "But it looked as if it was above this neighbouring farmhouse
- "It wasnt actually above the farmhouse but the angle of the road that I was
..I could see the farmhouse and the trees, and I could actually see this light. I
didnt know it was the craft by then, I could just see this light above it. You could
tell that it was beyond it."
(MR) "Roughly how long were you standing there and did you view
this object for ?"
- "Oh, it must have been quite a few minutes and there were plenty cars passed by and
we just couldnt understand why nobody saw this thing at all, because it
was massive, there were lights all over it. It was gigantic."
(BD) "How big do you think it was ?"
- "Well if I held up my hand it was much bigger than my hand (laughs)"
(MR) "And what were the feelings of your son and the family
friend, did they have any idea what they were looking at ?"
- "They were just amazed, stunned. As far as we know it certainly wasnt
anything human. And as it sort of moved away it switched off all its lights except for the
little red ones. It moved away right into the distance and you could see those faint red
lights as you followed it. And, it was about that point that I said to my friend that
apparently if you wave to these things they sometimes signal back. So oh boy
my pal is screaming and waving her hands and it did flash."
(MR) "It did flash ! How many times did it flash ?"
- "I reckon over all at that point it must have flashed 3 times anyway at us, because
I actually left the car running with its lights on and at one point I had to put the
lights from main beam onto dip and it flashed at that as well."
(MR) "Now the manner in which it moved away from your line of
vision. How would you say it moved away, would you say that it moved in a straight line,
it moved in a patterned line, or was it a quick manovoure or was it a slow
- "It didnt seem to be a quick manavoure. Thinking about it, it covered a fair
bit of ground fairly quickly but it was quite smooth and steady. There wasnt any
sudden acceleration or anything, it just went very smoothly."
(MR) "You mentioned that there was traffic on the road. How many
cars do you think during the time that you were there looking at this thing, that passed
- "I say probably five or six, because it is quite a busy little road. At one point,
a car actually came from the village towards us really really slow. We were real
embarrassed but we were convinced that they (this other car) was going to pull in
across the road behind us because they indicated right and they probably wouldnt
believe us seeing what we had just seen, because all you could actually tell was this
faint little pin prick of red over in the distance it was more over the hills this side of
the valley. However they didnt (car didnt stop) in fact they went into
the side of the farmhouse or cottages that was just round about there."
(MR) "Now the date was the 23rd of September ?"
- "Uh huh."
(MR) "And the time ?"
- "Well I asked Peter my son when we were about to get back into the car and I said
"what time is it" ? as this is important we have got to report this. And he said
that it was five past eight."
(MR) "So there were yourself, your son and a family friend and you
watched it for a total or rough estimate of
. since you got out of the
- "Id say a total of five minutes."
(MR) "Did you then get back into your car and go into Freuchie
- "We did yeah, we then went into Freuchie and my friend said, "Well who do you
report this to" ? And I said, "Well Ive seen numbers to do with this in
magazines. So we went down to the magazine rack (In Freuchie General Stores) and
found one copy of one magazine and I said there probably will be something in here so
well get that plus the coffee and cigarettes. We dived back into the car and coming
out the village again my friend said "I wonder if well see it again", and
I said (Couldnt make this part out on the audio tape) However, her and
Peter were watching as we were going along and there were three cars on the road behind
us, and she (Marys friend) shouts "Its there, its
there". And I managed to get a quick look around and I saw a red light in the
distance go sort of, that way and I saw it just as it turned, because they were shouting
"Its coming towards us". And you could see it, it was really moving fast.
And it really came right up quick by this time we were saying that we would have to stop
the car safely. It came up real fast and I saw the lights starting to go on and at the
same time my son, he went into hysterics in the back of the car he was really frightened.
I immediately turned round to see to him, and my friends going "Wow, its
lit up like a Christmas tree with all these coloured lights and bright lights and
everything. Once he had started to scream (Marys son) It was almost like it
was definitely aware of us because it shut down all its lights and it just
popped back into the distance."
(MR) "You mentioned a moment ago about the object being triangular
was it sharply defined at the edges or was it rounded edges you know
- "It seemed to have smooth corners, rounded corners it wasnt a
(BD) "You say triangle, what kind of triangle ?"
- "It looked fairly sort of equilateral triangle, maybe slightly longer but like an
equilateral triangle. I wish I had a camera (she laughs) "
(MR) "And it was black ?"
- "And certainly yes, thats how it appeared to me."
(BD) "It wasnt very dark brown or very dark blue
- "I wouldnt have thought so, it was so very very dark, you would take it to be
a black triangle."
(BD) "Was it matt shiney ?"
- "There wasnt any reflections that I remember."
(MR) "Was the surface smooth, or mottled or broken or segmented
- "I havent a clue. I really dont know about that."
(MR) "When this object had these flashing lights obviously that
would partly illuminate the underside of the object. Did you see anything there ?"
- "There certainly
When it flashed there just seemed to be the lights that
I originally seen, they were really big lights. When it flashed they were big and it just
sort of almost blocked it out. And at that time when it did that the flashing
it was really well back in the distance."
(MR) "Now you live in this farmhouse out in the country. I take it
that you are well used to seeing aircraft and planes in the area
- "Fairly well used to it yeah. I dont really pay to much attention to them
really (she laughs)"
(MR) "But you are quite sure that this was nothing
.How long have you stayed here ?"
- "Ive only stayed here around just over a year now. And Ive never ever
seen anything like this before in my life."
(MR) "Now that was the events of the 23rd. Now did
anything else happen on that particular night later on when you got home for instance
- "Yeah, we actually stopped and phoned Larry Robinson at Skysearch."
(MR) "Its actually Larry Dean."
- "Is it ! Anyway, we phoned Skysearch and it was the answer machine and I said if
you have anyone in this area get them out here now, there is something going around. We
went back to our house told our daughter who thought that it was a wind up and she
realised that it wasnt, then a neighbour came in for a coffee so we sat for a while.
Finally we did go back out, because my daughter wanted to see if it was still there."
(BD) "Now how did you feel at this time ?"
- "Shocked but real excited you know."
(BD) "Were you terrified, Im not talking about your son just
- "No there was a bit of sort of uneasiness. Id read a bit about these things,
my friend hadnt believed in them before she thought they were a load of rubbish
shed hears stories about them but thought rubbish. And so we decided to go out
(BD) "And so did you feel OK about going out again ?"
- "Yeah we actually took our time in making a decision on should we or shouldnt
we. Peter said that he felt OK about it, because I hadnt been willing to put him
through any fear like he displayed earlier. And we decided to go back and we didnt
see that again. What we saw instead was really intensely bright white light on the ground
over by some trees. And we looked at that for a minute and I said well its just a
security light on a building or something one of these halogen ones or something. And then
I looked up to the left of that and I said look at that glow over the trees. In the woods,
you could see this immense bright blow glow in the woods and it actually extended quite
well above the trees. And we sat and watched that for a few minutes, and it was only
afterwards that I realised what a silly idea this is."
"But I said why dont we go onto the little back road we
might see it a bit clearer. The angle these trees were and what we were seeing it
wouldnt really have been visible from the other road. It was only after that I
realised how silly that was (she laughs) But however, we went round through the
village onto the little back road. Stopped the car because we saw the white light which
Im sure at the time we thought was the same thing that wed seen on the other
side. And to the right of that there was a very faint blue glow just a little bit over to
the trees. And we sat and watched it for a while, my friend kept sticking her head in the
way so it was blocking my view. And I started shouting about the lights, "Can you see
the coloured lights" ! And I kept ducking and diving around her head. I couldnt
see these to start with at all. And then, after a while I did see, I had been looking at
the wrong place and the light, somehow I was expecting the coloured lights to come from
the centre of this bright light but it wasnt, it was coming from the edges of it.
And it was shooting big beams of light out into the sky it was almost like a laser light,
red blue and green. And they really were lovely and my friend and my son nearly ended up
in tears we were really moved by this. And then it was after that that we actually saw
some figures silhouetted in this light."
"One was really tall compared to the other ones, there were some
smaller ones and there was one who appeared to be a bit smaller than those ones as well.
And they had enlarged heads, they were really long thin looking shaped. Long necks, very
long thin limbs even their bodies were sort of thin. And you could see them there moving
about in front of this light so all you got was this silhouette and they were moving in
and out of (Couldnt make this sentence out on tape) And it was over in this
little bit of faint blue glow in the woods to the right of this that we actually saw some
more of these sort of shapes we couldnt have told you which size they were or
anything. And there was also like a black shape as if they were a building or something
there, there was definetly a structuree shape. It was also while we were sitting here that
my friend and her daughter saw quite a lot of
we call these bright white
lights stars because thats what they looked like. She was pointing out quite a few
of them in the sky they were all around us and my friend saw a beam of light hitting the
road in front of the car."
(MR) "What colour was this beam of light ?"
- "As far as I know it was white. After that, my memory at this stage is confused.
After that I thought that we had just went along the road and turned at a junction and
went back to my friends house. But we had actually turned at the junction and ended
up stopping at another set of woods. And when we went back over the ground it seemed right
but somehow my memory is confused I only thought that we had stopped the once. And again
it was one of these big bright white lights and a blue glow in the woods and figures,
there were figures moving about."
(BD) "Could this be the same wood ?"
- "No it wasnt."
(BD) "It was a totally different wood !"
- "Yeah, uh huh. And we had been watching this for a while and my friends
brother finishes his work at eleven o clock and he had arranged to go along and visit her
for a while so we had to be back at eleven at her house so we went back. And we phoned
SkySearch again and this time the chap answered and he tried to give us I think it was
your telephone number but we couldnt get you in. (I Malcolm Robinson had moved
house) Then he put us onto Tony Dodd. Her brother came in, and we actually told him
what we had seen he thought we were really lucky because apparently he has read up quite
heavily on this subject as it really really fascinates him. And we had been advised to get
a video camera binoculars, anything, which we didnt have but he said (Friends
brother) "Well Ive got binoculars, I put them on in a bag on my front door (couldnt
make this part of the audio tape out) So he went away (he lives in *****) (Cant
divulge this, M.R.) We left about ten minutes after him. And on the way their there
were loads of these bright lights, star things in the sky. And being a driver I
couldnt really look but I saw just to the right of the hill (Falkland Hill) there is
a transmitter not far from here actually on the other end of this strip of woods. I could
actually see the whole hill with that outlined on it. And as it dropped down the point of
it where the mast dropped down, there was another one of these immense bright white lights
it was actually flashing in sequences of three. It was flashing. And after we had went to
the village it disappeared and we didnt see that again."
"We picked up the binoculars and went back. I refused to go onto
that little back road again. I didnt like it, I said "no, its too narrow
and twisty and I feel trapped there", and I said well go back to where we first
saw it and sit from there. Which is what we did. At all times I left the car running and
the lights on. I parked, there were cars that passed, 2 or 3 cars anyway passed me and we
were just sitting looking across and my friend got the binoculars and put them on what we
termed, the star and then she said, "Oh my God its not a star"
can someone else come and have a look. And she gave the binoculars over to me and it was
just amazing. What was actually behind this white light like was a ball, one that had been
slightly squashed in at the sides, it was a bit elongated top to bottom. And it was like a
hot firey orange colour."
"There were big irregular indentations on its surface. To
describe it would be like really shimmery as if it was giving off energy or something. It
wasnt even on the ground it was actually above the ground and near its base
was like a wiggly long oval black spot. I dont know whether it would be an opening
into this thing or not. It was rotating quite steadily and as it did so it was also tilted
on its axis a bit like a globe as it went round. To the right of that on the ground
there was a small orangey red light, but what it was I dont know it was perfectly
round and little. To the right of that standing with his back to this thing, was one of
these really tall things. It was brown and initially you could tell from the silhouette
that they had bigger heads in relation to their bodies than we did but it was really when
you saw it in profile that you could see how bulbous it was it was extremely pronounced at
the back. I dont recall any form of clothing it just seemed to be a smooth shape,
now if we looked at a person you would see where their boots were or something or shoes
but with this you couldnt tell."
(GW) "Did the body come into a very fine taper ?"
- "I wouldnt have said so no. It just seemed to be structured similar to ours
but very flat and skinny. Very child like in a way without the pot belly, you know, just
that unformed sort of skinny look. (she laughs)"
(BD) "Again, at this time, were there a strong light in front of
them that you were seeing them in silhouette ?"
(MM) "Well what I actually saw through the binoculars when I
focused on this thing, you could see that it was brown and you could see the light of this
orange ball thing reflecting off its back. I then looked over to the left where the
blue glow was, because there seemed to a like a clearing in the trees, and all the figures
here were more like dark black silhouettes or whatever. And there was a tall one of those
figures standing at the right hand side of the trees, there seemed to be a black shape in
there, but I didnt pay much attention to that I didnt know what it was.
Further back on the left hand side of this clearing, must have been quite a bit further
back was another one of these tall ones, and there were loads and loads of the small ones
running around, you could see them. They were carrying boxes in relation to my size you
would say the boxes were that square (Gestures to researchers around 4 to 5 feet
square) And they were also carrying canisters, maybe about that round, (Gestures to
researchers around2 to 3 feet) they looked dark as well. They were just running around
they seemed to be picking things up, putting things down. At one point I saw the tall
brown one, (I call it brown, it seemed brown because the other one was and he was the same
(BD) "So you could actually see the colour of these things ?"
- "Well, the one next to the light yeah. These ones were actually in silhouette to
me, thats what I said. I call these big ones the Brown Ones, because he was the same
size as the one at the other side."
(BD) "You know how some times you see figures standing in front of
a very very strong powerful halogen light. The light just reflects off the side of the
body and you actually see the body a lot thinner than it actually is. I mean Im not
saying it was
- "This blue glow wasnt anything as bright as what this white starry light was,
it was quite diffuse, it was bright, it was quite a bright colour, it was definitely
there. It wasnt that intense sort of light, it was quite diffuse. At one point I saw
the big tall one standing at the edge of the trees on the right, I actually saw him bend
down and stretch out his right arm to something, then he stood up and moved into the trees
a bit then he came back and he took up the same position and was standing as before. My
friend had the binoculars then I got them back this was all over the two times that I had
the bincoulars, and without the binoculars you couldn't see that orange globy thing
at all it was just the bright white light. Without the binoculars I saw the tall one come
round there and there were some small ones running around there too. I dunno, it was
almost like a load of workmen doing something and every now and then going to see the
Gaffer (Foreman) about whats to be done next."
(BD) "Could you hear anything ?"
- "No I didnt hear anything."
(BD) "No noises or communication or
- "The One thing that I havent mentioned before and its probably a bit
wrong to mention it now but at the time I thought it was my imagination. When I first got
the binoculars and focused them on that white light and saw that ball thing, I thought I
heard a crackle. Like an electric crackle. And I have read something in a magazine
something to do with abductions and I havent mentioned this before and maybe I
..and I did hear a bird calling but they are quite common to hear
those kinds in this area."
(MR) "Just a few points whilst we are on this subject before you
continue on with your story. This is when you went out again, this is the same
- "Uh Huh. This was the third time when we went out."
(MR) "The third time when you went out. What time of evening was
(MM). "Right, I think it must have been around half past
elevenish. Round about then."
(MR) "Now the figures you saw, I know that its going to be
hard to differentiate when we are talking distance here to get a rough estimate. But did
you get an idea of how tall or how short these figures were ?"
- "It was only afterwards when we had got back to the house and (Couldnt
make this part out on the audio tape) and those tall ones must have been immense
because from our perspective from where we were sitting unless this thing was not actually
on or at ground level, then it certainly appeared to be around half the height of the
(MR) "Thats quite big !"
- "It was immense. One thing that I would like to say as well, after watching through
the binoculars, for some reason I was able to see the brown one on the right and that
little red disc without the aid of the binoculars. Thats weird (she laughs)"
(MR) "When you were out the second time, when you were in the
woods and you saw the beams and the figures."
(MR) "Distance wise, how far away are we talking ?"
- "It was quite a distance away it was right across the field, a ploughed
(MR) "So it was quite a distance?"
- "Uh Huh."
(MR) "You said you had to be back for eleven."
- "Uh Huh."
(MR) "Did you get back for eleven."
- "We did, we did. We must have stopped around ten to elevenish, whatever, I
cant remember the time now to phone SkySearch."
(MR) "How many were in the car at this time ?"
- "Four. There was myself, my friend, my son, and my friends daughter."
(MR) "Now the binoculars that you were using, what magnification
were they ?"
- "I dont know, they were very small and my friend actually tested them out
later and she said there is no way that we could have seen what we did through those
binoculars, she said they are crap, (She laughs) (couldnt make the next sentence
out on audio tape) There is no way she said, that we should have been able to see so
clearly as we did, what we did with those binoculars."
(MR) "Are they your binoculars?"
- "No they are my friends brothers binoculars."
(MR) "Now the brown one that you saw, you mentioned to Garry there
a wee bit about him. Lets discuss again what his characteristics were like, his face
his bodily structure, fat thin broad whatever you know."
- "Tall, he was standing with his right side facing round in profile and he was brown
and when he was in profile you could see how extended the back of his skull was how large
it was, it was really quite large. From a front view you could tell that it was a sort of
bigger and higher at the top when ours would be (couldnt make this bit out on
tape) but it was only really in profile when you saw just how big this was. Thin neck,
quite long neck, a very flat long shape and he was just standing there with his arms by
his side, no lumps or bumps."
(BD) (Couldnt make Billys point out at this point)
- "It was very flat, child like. Because children have pot bellies they didnt
have pot bellies, they were quite flat."
(BD) "Were they sexless, could you
- "You couldnt tell if they had any sex organs or
(MR) "Are there any indications that any one of these
then what you will, was wearing any type of clothing of any description ?"
- "None at all it was just a completely sort of smooth shape", (couldnt
make next sentence said by witness)
(MR) "Can you recall seeing any individual fingers or was it just
a hand shape that you saw from a distance ?"
- "It was just a shape, there wasnt any sort of detail as far as features go
except one thing about the front of the face as seen in profile it was very flat."
- "And it did have a bit of a brow, but then it just seemed to be sort of very
(MR) "The manner in which these wee fellas were occupied (if you
like) you said they were carrying boxes. What was the mannerism of their walking
movements. Was it like you and I or was it different ?"
- "It just seemed to be like watching anybody moving about but they were fast."
(MR) "They were fast !"
(MR) "Were they bending their knees with ease or were they
- "There wasnt any shuffling they seemed to be walking like any normal person.
They were bending at the waist."
(BD) "Were they graceful ?"
- "Yeah, quite smooth, quite natural very natural smooth."
(MR) "You mentioned boxes and containers."
(MR) "Were they taking these from a place to locate them somewhere
else were there any internal part where things were getting stored if you like ?"
- "As far as I am aware, no. My friend said that the structured shape in the clearing
was actually the craft but it was on the ground and she said she could see them going in
and out but I couldnt that. As far as I was aware, all that I could see was them
coming in and out of this field in this glow that was in the woods carrying these things.
You could tell that at some point they were picking things up and putting things
(MR) "Did there appear to be any struggle with the lifting of
these things or was it with ease."
- "They were lifting them quite easily yeah, nothing like bending your knees and
stretching about. It was quite smooth and effortless."
(MR) "The shape of these boxes and also the shape of these
cylinders, what were they like ?"
- "The boxes were square cubes."
(MR) "Cubes !"
- "Yeah and the canisters were just cylinders about that tall, (Motions and
gestures to researchers around 6 to 7 feet) and they were carrying like that", (Gestures
to researchers length ways in arms)
(MR) "And I know it would be dark around this time
- "It was."
(MR) "Did you notice any colours or markings on these cylinders or
- "I didnt see anything no."
(MR) "But it was dark to your perceptive where you were looking
- "Uh huh. They were like in silhouette in this blue glow that was in the
(MR) "Now this is still on this same night. ?"
- "Uh huh."
(MR) "Now what happened then, you mentioned on the third occasion
you were still looking at these things through the binoculars. What paved the way for the
end of the night, what happened ?"
- "Well all through this I had been feeling really uneasy for some reason and I kept
looking all round the car and imagining the Boogie Man coming out to get us I suppose, I
just felt really uneasy. My friends daughter was siting in the back of the car and
she could see these things that her mum was actually describing without the aid of the
binoculars. And Peter could also see things, he did get a shot of the binoculars but he
hadnt even got them focused and so what he saw was purely just his own visual sight.
I remember my friend started to say, "My God theyre coming out of the mist
towards us" there was like a mist coming out of the woods. She said its
like a cocoon, she said, "My God theres hundreds of them" they are
in these things and I could hear her daughter in the back say "They are coming
towards us". And the my friend was saying "My God they are fast, they are
coming so fast" And it was really bizarre and confusing at the end."
(BD) "They were coming towards you !"
- "Yeah. They were coming towards us in the car. And Im panicking feeling
really panicked and Im saying "Where where" ! But I cant
understand why it was so light at the entry of that field, because I could see these big
round straw bales in the field and Im looking at these very dark shadows between
them saying "Where where" expecting to see something coming round there.
She (her friend) said "Theyre coming theyre coming". The next
sort of sensation that I have or impression that I had was when it was all happening at
the end and it was just these huge bales" (Surprise in her voice then laughs)
(MR) "Right O.K."
- "Just crowded right across the road from us and its not a big wide road I
swear to God that there was one just behind me at the passenger side window at the rear of
the car. And at the same time my friend had been shouting "Lets get the ****
out of here" (Laughs) And her daughter in the back said there is one standing
grinning at me. And I just rammed the car into first gear and into second gear and was
slipping into third gear as we were going into the village and I realised that I was doing
55 miles per hour so at that I put the brakes on a bit. It was quite frightening at the
end. The others had been looking back as we fled there is no more dignified word for it
than that. And as we left the whole field lit up in an enormous blue flash. Then we got
back to my friends house and she and I stayed awake all night and the kids slept in
the living room. Felt extremely shocked and amazed and everything else."
(MR) "Now when you said that it was like a mist coming towards
you. What do you mean by this ?"
- "I didnt see it, and I was really agitated. It was like a white
.no it was a white mist, then she said it was like a cocoony stuff and she
said my God there are hundreds of them these things are in these cocoons and they are sort
of fibery. And she said they were coming towards us really fast. These beings
inside were not walking it was like they were being carried in these what she called
cocoons. She had also said you know the orangey one that I was talking about at the start.
She said they are beings in there, more than one. She said they are in there
and the others were saying the same but I just didnt see that, that wasnt my
perception at all."
(BD) "What, in the white ones ?"
- "Well there were beings in the white ones but certainly originally that
big orangey one that I said looked like a squashed ball. My friend when she was describing
it she said it contains these beings, she said there were quite a few of them
in this thing it was spinning round."
(MR) "At one point you mentioned there that it was like straw
bales across the road ."
(MR) "Obviously I take it that wasnt part of the scenery
just prior to that ! "
- "Well, what I remember is when we stopped. Bearing in mind that it was night it was
dark there was a reasonable amount of cloud cover but there was a moon and some stars. And
it was quite clear, the air, it was quite mild as well. And when I stopped the car that
last time the headlights were on and they were pointing down the road and we were looking
straight out the side of the drivers window through a gap between a wall and a hedge
looking across at these woods. It was quite dark but to me, I can remember her saying "Oh
my God they are coming towards us" I can remember seeing these bales which I
wasnt aware of before. And it also seemed to be light and there was suddenly a very
strong shadow to the right of these things (Straw Bales) In-between these things, a
very dark shadow. And then, it seemed to be from that split second from that, to this
whole entry way being full of these things and somehow I have got this perception that
there was one there (being) Just behind us at the side of the car. And
it was big" (witness laughs)
(MR) "So you saw all that, and you arrived back at your
friends house. How long did that take ?"
- "Well I personally havent a clue what time we got back they said it was about
half past twelve. I had the distinct impression that we were sitting there for an awful
lot longer. Even just thinking about it sitting there watching what (couldnt make
this sentence out) I could have sworn by the time we went to her brothers house,
travelled back and sat there, I could have sworn we sat there longer but I dont
know. And you dont actually keep a careful watch on time. And your perception on
time goes if you are bored or something then it seems to drag."
(BD) "Yes and so much has been happening as well."
- "Uh huh."
(MR) "Did you get any sleep when you went back ?"
(MR) "You didnt !"
- "We didnt sleep at all."
(MR) "When did you actually go to your bed ?"
- "Eh, my friend and my daughter ended up, well we had separated earlier that day,
she actually had come up here with her daughter and we made some phone calls then I took
her back to her house with her daughter as they both had various things to do that day.
And I went down after tea and my friend, well the shock had really set in and she was just
an absolute wreck. And I said right, if you want to come up and stay with me at least
Ive got a phone and I can drive Ive got the car, you know. She came up to stay
with me. I actually had been given a few sleeping tablets from my doctor because my
sleeps been very irregular and I could be doing with something to get me settled
(MR) "Did you tell the doctor anything
- "No this was actually prior to all this happening but I had taken one I am really
worried about the idea of taking drugs. So, you know, I really dont want to take
this but I had to have these, I had another nine left, so I thought right, were
going to take one. So myself, my friend, and her daughter, we all took one, but they are
very mild apparently, they didnt seem to have much effect. My friends daughter
was actually lying on an airbed beside my bed I held her hand. My friend was in beside me.
Eventually we did sleep and as far as I am aware we had a wonderful nights sleep and
woke up about ten the next morning and everything was fine. But later on in the day I felt
that something had happened . My older son had woken up about eight o clock and he said
that he heard what he assumed were my footsteps going down the hall unlocking the doors,
going out to the car, shutting the door, starting the car but the car was stalling and
then he didnt hear anymore, but he thought, well she must have run out of
cigarettes, and he didnt think anymore of it."
"Apparently at twenty past eight my friends daughter had
come home from work and she said, "You were not in your bed" She had
assumed that I had got up to go to the toilet or something I said "I didnt
[End of side one tape one]
[Side 2 tape 2]
- "And I said that I didnt leave, and he said well I definitely heard the car,
he said it started and it stalled, and then it was then that my friends daughter
said that I woke up at twenty past eight and you werent in your bed. I said that I
must have been because I didnt move, she said you were not in your bed."
(MR) "You mentioned on the phone to me that you came across some
strange marks on your body. When did you first notice these marks ?"
- "Well being in touch with Tony Dodd he said keep an eye out for any marks, he said
"Do you have any marks on your body" Initially that first day as far as we knew
no. It was the following day, the day after I think it was the Thursday, well it was a
couple of days afterwards anyway. My friends daughter found a mark on her left
shoulder. It was as if the blood has been drawn into the pours of the skin it was a dark
speckle bloody colour. I do have a photograph of it although it is not very good .
Describing it in its entirety it came up as an oval shape, it actually had a bar
across the middle where there was nothing. My friend ended up with initially two marks on
her body, one was on her right buttock it was like a very pale brown mark, like a birth
mark. Ive actually got a birthmark and its a very similar colour like a very
pale brown colour almost like a smudgy look. It is very irregular and blotchy and that was
on her right buttock. She found another smaller one underneath her right breast on her
ribs. It is almost like a birthmark as if the skin colour had changed. The skin colour had
changed it was like a burn, it was different from her daughters, her two marks. I
didnt have any marks but right in at the joint of my right shoulder it was very
painful. There was no mark but it was very painful to touch. I was feeling very tense and
I rubbed my shoulder and that was when I felt it. And it was right at the joint itself, no
mark. My son didnt appear to have any marks at all. Two days later my friend got
another mark the same sort of thing that she had on her buttock. And it appeared up on her
right shoulder near the shoulder blade and it was quite a large one. The skin pigment had
changed it covered quite a good area and was blotchy and irregular around the edges. The
other things that have happened is that my friends daughter had another mark on her
right shoulder this time similar to the original mark that sort of bloody stuff and it was
about four inches long and rounded edges. After this the marks on my friends
daughter were bruising up quite colourful. And it was the week after this Monday the 30th
my friends leg, the top of her right thigh had an immense bruise. She went to bed
but two nights before there was nothing there. She had woken up the day before and there
was a big mark on her right thigh and the day after that it was all blue green and purple
a really colourful bruise. She hadnt knocked herself or injured herself. There has
been various strange bruises and things."
(MR) "What about headaches or your mouth going dry or like a
silvery taste in your mouth ?"
- "I never noticed any of that, what I did assume was the extreme stress which has
been with me a lot. I dont think my son had anything like that it was quite later on
that my son had quite a few things, in connection with other things (she laughs)"
(MR) "You mentioned on the phone to me an incident concerning your
son in regards to the bathroom."
- "Uh Huh."
(MR) "Where he saw something." ?
- "Yeah, that was the second time that day. Oh right, where are we. (she pauses
trying to recollect the stages of how things followed and refers to a journal sitting on
her knee) That was Sunday the 20th of October providing that Ive got
my dates right. And I was on the phone to you, (looks over and states this to Garry
(GW) "Thats Right"
- "It was in the afternoon. One of my friends and her son whos eight had come
to stay for the weekend she was leaving later that afternoon. Her son and Peter were up in
Peters room playing. Peter had glanced out of his bedroom window and saw it standing
on the roof, theres the kitchen roof out there. It was the small white creature with
lots of teeth. And later on that night when I had started to run his bath (Peter) I was on
the phone to Garry here and he shouted on me (Peter) and I went up to see what it was he
wanted and he was quite shocked and he said that there was another one in the
bathroom standing at the end of the bath and where the sink is. And he said it had only
been there for like a second or so and he didnt like the look of it he was scared
and so I had to sit outside the bathroom door while he had his bath. He was still feeling
scared after that so I said if you want to sleep with me tonight and leave the lights on,
O.K. So we did that, and that was the worst night of our lives (laughs)"
(MR) "Was his bedroom facing this direction, (Malcolm points to
- "His bedroom faces the shed out the back here."
(MR) "Peter, would you like to tell me in your own words what you
(PM) "It was standing on the right hand side to my glass at the
window (!) He just turned round (Couldnt make the next sentence out on audio
tape) And I turned round, and he was just standing there."
(MR) "Did your friend see it as well, (Malcolm was referring to
the bedroom sighting)"
(MR) "Was it looking at you ?"
(PM) "It was looking at us both."
(MR) "What did he look like, his head, his body. ?"
(PM) "He was small and had a big shaped head and lots of sharp
teeth in the mouth. He had big oval shaped eyes."
(MR) "What colour was he ?"
(PM) "White. He had a thick bit going from, (Couldnt make
this part out on audio tape) and he had some skin, (couldnt make this part
out on audio tape, however he was talking about a strange flap of skin in-between his
elbow joints) "
(GW) "Was he bright ?"
(GW) "Glowing white bright !"
(MR) "Did it looked musicale did you see any ribs ?"
(PM) "Yeah, musicale yeah, he was musicale."
(MR) "Any hair at all on his head or legs."
(MR) "What did his hands look like, do you remember ?"
(PM) "I cant remember, I was mostly looking at his
(MR) "You said his eyes were black, were they oily black, were
they really shiny, or were they just kind of dull."
(PM) "They werent reflecting, they were just dark black,
(MR) "Was you frightened ?"
(BD) "Did he say anything to you. ?"
(BD) "Do you think he might have said anything to you ?"
(PM) "He might have."
(BD) "But you dont feel that he might have said something to
(GW) "What do you think he wanted ?"
(PM) (Couldnt make out Peters response to this question
on audio tape)
(GW) "Just to look at you !"
(PM) "I think it was frightened."
(MR) "How long was he there, and how did he go away. Was he there
for a wee while or
(PM) "He was there for about ten minutes and he went away."
(MR) "How did he go away, did he just walk away ?"
(PM) "He sort of like floated up."
(MR) "Upwards !"
(PM) "Uh Huh."
(MR) "Into the bedroom ceiling ?"
(PM) "No he was outside the bedroom, he just floated up into the
(MR) "So he wasnt actually in the room. ?"
(MR) "O.K. This was outside the window."
(MR) "His teeth, you said they were jaggy. Were they all the same
size, were some longer
(PM) "There were some longer. The ones at the front were longer, (Couldnt
make out Peters next sentence on audio tape) "
(BD) "I mean how could you see the teeth, was he
smaller than you ?"
(PM) "He just had his mouth open."
(BD) "Did he have his mouth open all the time ?"
(PM) "Mmm. It was like he didnt have any lips."
(GW) "Was he interested in you ?"
(PM) "I dont know, he was just standing watching us."
(GW) "Looking at you ?"
(MR) "Did he have a nose, did you notice a nose or ears
(PM) "He didnt have any ears but he had a bit of a
(MR) "A bit of a nose !"
(BD) "So what about the other times that you have seen things,
what happened in the school, something about your maths !"
(PM) "There was a Gray one at school, there was a Gray one behind
me and a huge white one
(BD) "In the classroom ?"
(PM) "Yes. It wasnt the ones with the teeth, they were
different ones, sort of creamy. The gray one, it was holding the top of my pencil showing
me what number to write."
(BD) "Did you say anything to your pals ?"
(BD) "Did you not say, "look at this""
(BD) "Nobody saw anything else at all !"
(MR) "Was he slightly different from the one you saw outside your
(PM) "He was a gray one."
(MR) "A gray one ?"
(MR) "Apart from being gray, was there anything else unusual about
him, or was he just a different colour but the same as the last one ?"
(PM) "He didnt have any teeth ?"
(MR) "Right, this one didnt have any teeth ?"
(PM) "No". (Couldnt make the next sentence out that
Peter said here)
(MR) "And he told you what to write ?"
(PM) "No, he was holding my pencil."
(MR) "Were you frightened at this point ?"
(MR) "And did you hear anything, apart from the classroom chatter.
Did you hear anything from him, did you think maybe he was trying to tell you
(GW) (Couldnt make out on audiotape what Garry said here)
(PM) "He was helping."
(BD) "You knew he was helping you he just didnt all of a
sudden appear holding your pencil did he ? Did you see him walk into the classroom."
(PM) "He came in about the same time as me."
(BD) "The same time as you, so he was with you before you entered
the classroom ?"
(GW) "Do you think he knew you ?"
(PM) "Dont know. He might have known me."
(BD) "So when did you first see him then before you went into the
(PM) (Couldnt make out Peters answer here on audio tape)
(BD) "So he followed you to school ?"
(BD) "So was he in your room when you woke up ?"
(BD) "Standing next to your bed or standing in the corner ?"
(PM) "He was next to my bed."
(BD) "So you woke up and he looked at you ?"
(MR) "I just woke up and I seen him."
(BD) "Did he not say hello to you or
(PM) "No he was just standing in the corner."
(BD) "Waiting for you to wake up !"
(BD) "So you got up, got dressed, went downstairs, and he followed
you downstairs. Did you have your breakfast."
(BD) "So he sat down while you were having your breakfast ?"
(PM) "He was still standing." !
(GW) "Did you go tell mum." ?
(GW) "No ! Why Not ?"
(PM) "Shes pretty scared."
(MR) "Peter, how tall was he above you or shorter. ?"
(PM) "He was about the same size as me."
(MR) "About the same size as you." !
(BD) "So you are saying that he followed you all through that
(BD) "Watching your class work. Where did he go after that ?"
(PM) "He went through a wall."
(BD) "He just disappeared. Did he turn round and say cherrio
Im away !"
(PM) "He just turned round and walked through a wall."
(BD) "What did he do prior to walking through the wall ? What had
you just finished ?"
(PM) "I cant remember what I was doing but the wall turned
to water and he just walked right through it."
(BD) "So he walked over to you ?"
(BD) "Where is the school ?"
- "The school is actually down in ***** (Deleted) and Peter gets into a taxi and goes
(BD) "So was he in the taxi with you ?"
(BD) "So he was in the taxi with you. ?"
(PM) "Yes "
(BD) "He came out of the taxi, did he come in the house with
(BD) "Did you have your dinner ?"
- (Mary said something at this point on audio tape but I couldnt make it out)
(BD) "I mean, what happened before he walked through the wall. Did
you come in and take your school uniform off or
(PM) "I just got in and took my bag and coat off and he just
looked at me and he turned around and walked through the wall."
(MR) "O.K. Back at school, when he was helping you did you find
that you got, was it sums, the lesson you were doing, did you get it right ?"
(PM) "I dunno."
(MR) "You dont know yet. Do you think he was quite helpful
in what he was showing you ?"
(PM) "Uh huh."
(BD) (Billy asked a question but couldnt make this out on
audio tape but it was something to do with Peters school project that he was working
(PM) "It was tissue paper about London, there was black paper and
I put tissue paper on the back and we were using red and yellow tissue paper to make
flames and he was helping me with the tissue paper, (couldnt make the
next sentence out)"
|(The next few questions asked by Billy and answered by Peter were hard to make out on
the audio tape)|
(BD) "Did you tell him what to do ?"
(PM) "He was holding onto the back of my hands."
(MR) "Peter, did you notice how many fingers he had ?"
(MR) "Three fingers. Were they long, were they fat, thin."
(PM) "They were long and thin."
(MR) "Did he have any nails ?"
(MR) "Did he have any you know the lines at the knuckles, did you
|Peter nodded his head to this question.|
(MR) "Did you notice any veins ?"
(MR) "Just grey."
(GW) "Was (Couldnt make this bit out) long & cold
(PM) "It was cold". (Couldnt make out Peters
(MR) "See the tips of the fingers, was it still the same, was it
long and thin or did it come out a bit, flattened out a bit ?"
(PM) "It got thinner as it went along then it just came to a round
bit at the end."
(MR) "Did this wee fella have the wee fold of skin like the one
.".(Malcolm was referring to the fold of skin that Peter saw on
one of this beings in the join of the forearm to upper arm)
(MR) "He didnt, this one didnt."
(BD) "Did you see him the next day ?"
(PM) "There are three and they are just following me and they are
over there just now, (Peter points to the large bay window in the living room) I
can see them. They dont talk at all."
|At this point Malcolm Billy and Garry swung round to look where Peter was pointing
hoping to see something but were met by a normal scene of the window and curtains, no sign
of the three greys that Peter had referred to. We all took some photographs of
the area and when those photographs were developed there was no extra images
on them, just a normal photograph of the window. |
(PM) "I can see them shimmering."
(MR) "Are you quite happy that they are there at the moment?"
(PM) "I think they have been there all my life, Ive seen
shimmers all my life."
(BD) " Youve seen shimmers all your life ?"
(BD) "Your talking about aliens are you. How do you
know they are aliens?"
(PM) "They look like them."
(BD) "They look like what, the photos you see in magazines and
(BD) "So how do you know they are aliens ! Have they
told you ?"
(PM) (Couldnt make out what Peter said on audio tape here)
(MR) "Where about Peter are they ?"
|(Malcolm moves towards the window area asking Peter to show him exactly where these
three beings, aliens, whatever, were standing. Malcolm was moving in and out and
around in the area where these beings were allegedly standing.|
- "Do you want me to shut the curtains son ?"
(BD) "How do you feel when you walk through them (Question
directed to Peter) ?"
(PM) "They are there but they are not there."
(BD) "Do they feel cold ?"
(PM) "Sometimes they do."
(BD) "How many are there ?"
|(There were lots of talking going on at this point between us all, most of which was
hard to make out on audio tape)|
(PM) "I can sort of see zig zag like black all the time moving
back and forward."
(BD) "What colour is it ?"
(PM) "Its just whitish."
- "He also sees different colours as well
Are you sure it wasnt
(Couldnt make this sentence out from Mary which was directed to Peter, she
(PM) "It wisnae," (wasnt) (High pitched answer by
(BD) "What are they doing just now, just standing watching?"
(PM) "Mmm, thats what they usually do."
(BD) "Are they not telling you to say anything?"
(MR) "Peter, could they move anything in the room if they wanted
(PM) "Dont know."
(MR) "Could you ask them to move Billys pen," (Malcolm
points to Billy Devlins pen on a chair)
(PM) "You might want to ask them yourself. !"
(MR) "(Malcolm laughs and says, "If there is anyone there
could you move this pen on this chair here" Then says, "Ill be the
first one out of the door if it does move" (Laughs)"
(PM) "He has moved something already."
(MR) "(Malcolm turns to Peters mum Mary and says, "Can
you see anything yourself") referring to the alleged three grey beings standing at
- "I dont know if its because I am deliberately blocking because Im
scared, but I can see the shimmering. I have had them in focus then I have immediately
blocked them out. Its almost like when they are trying to make me see them the
shimmering comes up really strong and Ill just immediately block them, I just
dont want to see them. Its really really scary."
(GW) "And you say shimmering ?"
- "Its almost like a heat wave (Im sure she meant haze) Its
just there, its just a shimmer, and you can see through it. There isnt any
particular light. But sometimes somehow it seems as though faint very fine streaks through
it (laughs) You know like on a summers day your looking at something and you
get that haze
(BD) (Billy interrupts this part of the conversation and turns round
to Peter and says,) "Did he say anything if Im standing on him" (Billy
is walking in and out of the area where these greys supposedly are.
(PM) (Cant make out Peters response to this question on
(BD) "Hes not saying "get off".
(PM) (Again cant make out Peters response on tape)
|At this point Garry Wood gets back to asking questions to Mary about the main night, the
night of the main sighting and asked about being home in bed, did she have any strange
dreams to which Mary replied.|
(GW) "Did you have any weird dreams that night ?"
- "Im not aware, Im usually a fairly active dreamer."
(GW) "Basically you slept and you cannot
..The night you were at your friends ?"
- "The night I was at my friends, I really dont recall any dreams. My friend
said I was extremely restless and she had hardly any sleep all night because I was
determined not to have the quilt on the bed and she said it was like as if somebody else
was in the bed she said. She said you just kept sitting up, taking the quilt off and
throwing it off the bed and she said that she (Mary) she did that constantly for about 20
minutes to half an hour. There was nothing around that I could have injured myself on. I
havent actually injured myself anywhere. I could see a slight mark there (points
to her arm) I know its there. But it was actually like a collection of five. It
was one in the centre, one there, one there quite pronounced, one there quite pronounced.
It was a collection of little round bruises."
(GW) "Are your friends bruised when they have been gripped, are
they easily bruised? You should try it with your friends, and just say can I try this and
just grab her and squeeze her and see if bruises come up."
- "Because some times I bruise very easy and other times I dont. But it
wasnt only that, the whole muscle from elbow to down there, this whole muscle was
very painful, it was actually very swollen up here as well. Its actually just
(MR) "Is it itchy at all ?"
- "It wasnt itchy, just very painful."
(GW) "Have you looked over yourself for any other odd lumps or
- "Yes as far as I know theres been nothing, just that, initially the first day
I noticed that, (couldnt make the next sentence out on tape) other than that
there were no other marks."
(MR) "Now since the night of the 23rd, now this is
obviously the 27th of October (1996). Can you recall any prominent strange or
unusual prolific dreams something that has stayed with you, or havent you had any of
- "There was one dream that stayed with me somehow it was referring to these craft.
Things that werent human (couldnt make this part out on tape however she
was referring to a dream where she believed that she was inside a UFO). It was
definitely human like but it wasnt getting any-thing. And after walking through
various corridors there was this hill of grass and this sort of craft."
(GW) "Did you feel you were collected and dropped off ?"
- "No, all I can really remember about this dream was walking down
.there was some kind of black door in front of me, we went through there
because there was this sort of male person with me, and there was a short stretch of
corridor and somehow it was a sort of marbly sort of floor and it was black doors down
this side and there were sort of silvery walls. Got to the end and there was a ladder just
like you see on the films with these ships and things. And I went up there and I was going
through a hatch and then I sort of came outside and it was like a saucer sitting there on
grass on a hill, which was odd. And then I was sort of back, and then Im not really
sure what was going on it was like this male person was doing something at my neck and he
explained to me that I may feel a very strange sensation but there are no marks or
anything that have come up and thats what I dreamed."
(GW) "You dont have dreams where people are" (couldnt
make this part out on audio tape)
- "Ive had dreams like that all my life anyway so
.things that have
(GW) "Its a sort of varied subject and you have got to look
at all corners to really make a profile of you to find out basically how your day to day
- "Ive had such a lot of very vivid dreams throughout my life a big spate of
them. Just over a year ago and again Ive had some more about me this year," (lost
parts of Marys conversation here as Billy Devlin was speaking quite loud to young
Peter in the back ground)
(MR) "Would you say that your outlook in life has changed at all,
do you view things differently now that you have had your experience."
- "Yes, ever since that Monday night I definitely felt that the world is not as we
know it. And whatever is really about us although I still really like all this
stuff, its really not important. I just feel that there is an awful lot
more to life in the Universe, as we know it."
(BD) "Do you see this as a special experience?"
- "I wouldnt have described it as such, but its just changed the way I
(GW) "Do you appreciate your life more ?"
- "I dont know that I do, I dont know that I appreciate it more. I
wasnt scared particularly until Sunday night, and thats really scared
(GW) "Is the thing that you are scared of coming face to face with
- (Cant make out on tape Marys response to this question) "Sorry I
did actually have something on the way home from work which was maybe a week after the
incident or a few days after the incident, certainly within two weeks of it where I dreamt
that I was in the car but it was that Monday night and Im not sure whether it was a
real dream or just made up of bits and pieces that Ive read or whether its
something that is in my mind as an actual memory. But I dreamt that I was in this room, it
was a white room and there was about half a dozen of these little grey ones in front of
me." "There in this" (Cant make out these next words) "I
thought there was a black or dark cupboard and this bench board. The roof seemed to be a
darkened grey looking and it got lighter on the walls, but there was a big black chair
almost like, I dont know, like one of these big ones that you get in offices they
dont have solid sides you know theyve got arm rests and their black like a
padded black leather chair. And one of these brown ones were sitting in there. And he
actually turned to sort of face me and these little ones are in front of me. And somehow
or other over to the brown one and I was pulling his arms, seeing what they were like.
Thats when I said to my friend "Those brown ones"
.. because she said
that she could remember being in the craft with them, Peter has got certain memories as
well. And I said, was their skin really warm or was their skin rough, and she said yeah
you were definitely there" (laughs) (This what appeared to be a dream
on Marys part, was as stated above when she mentioned this to her assumed ream to
her friend, was not a dream as her friend could back up what she herself experienced, or
was it a dual/similar dream !) "It felt very rough, but not really rough but
rough sort of very textured. Its hard to describe, very textured and very leathery
(MR) "And this is all in this dream ?"
- "And this was in this dream yeah. I definitely will not let myself see its
(MR) "So you feel there is a barrier there" ?
- "Oh well" (laughs)
(MR) "That you can only go so far." ?
(GW) "Your trying to picture it but you cannot see any
- "Yeah, ah
. And its scares me. Ive got a definite sort of
(BD) "So youve got a block" ? (cant make out
on tape Billys finishing part of his sentence)
(GW) "But you wont come face to face with anything like
- "Im just too scared."
(GW) "Until you can accept it." ?
- "Im really just too scared especially after what happened on Sunday."
(MR) "Where have you lived most of your life, where were you born
and brought up ?"
(MM) "I lived in (not given here for witness protection) my
parents are still there."
(MR) "And growing up as a young girl in this area, did you have a
happy childhood as such were there any strange experiences centring around your
younger life ?"
- "I certainly used to have an awful lot of nightmares. The house that my mum and dad
used to have in (not given here) I can remember having nightmares there and I
actually fell down the stairs splitting my face open. And then when we moved over to just
outside (not given here) we stayed in a cottage there for two years and I had
horrendous nightmares there and I was under a lot of stress because I was bullied at the
school that I was at there. But eh, these dreams were horrific. Put it this way, my mum
used to get hold of me and she used to wake me up when I was actually trying to tear my
way through the bedroom wall."
(GW) "When you are on your own or especially when you are secluded
and on your own, do you sometimes feel that there are something watching you ?"
(MM) " I have felt that many a time, just after I moved in here in
(GW) (Could not make out Garrys next question on audio tape
- "I have had that a couple of times, not overly often. Everybody seems to have
moments like that which you have been spooked about something and your not sure why.
Ive had a few experiences where Ive felt Ive definitely been spooked, a
couple of frightening ones."
(GW) "There is just something in your mind that tells you to
remove it." !
- "Yes. Its funny I was talking about my mum and dad this time last year
mentioning about the nightmares that Ive had. It was constant then, sort of like
repeating dreams really. And my dad said where we lived there were actually a lot of Ley
Lines there, I dont know anything about that". (laughs)
(MR) "As you grew up and as you grew older, did you show any
interest in matters relating to psychic matters or spiritual matters." ?
- "Yeah, Uh Huh. I read a few books about it."
(MR) "Is that Spiritual books, psychic books ?"
- "Yes those, books about aliens. Ive actually got Whitley Streibers
three books, including Communion and Transformation. Ive got quite a few books about
other things and I make good use of the library (Malcolm laughs) Two years ago I
started a subscription to Flying Saucer Review which I kept up just for the year. I like
the Fortean Times its got lots of odd things I like their idea of keeping an open
(MR) "Yes thats a good magazine that."
(MM) "Yes lots of fun."
(GW) "When you go out at night, basically do keep sort of aware at
every stage of the area so you do watch out for anything strange."
- "Now I do, I watch the skies when Im out."
(GW) "When you are driving along the road are you eyes more up
there than down here". (Malcolm laughs)
- (Couldnt make out on tape Marys response to this question but she laughed as
well at this point.) "Thats how I saw the triangle again on Friday
night" (alluding to Garys question of watching the skies)
(MR) "Friday night there." ?
(MM) "I was on the road and got up to the top of the hill there
and just started to go down and the triangle was sitting over above the fields. It was
high up, we were higher than it" (Due to the lay of the land the valley is down
below) "And we could see it, just sitting above the fields sort of behind
Kennoway It was sitting there and it had these two big bright front lights
(MR) "Was it moving ?"
- "When we first started watching it, it was stationary. It was almost pointing
towards us but slightly, again I am referring to the two bright white lights at the front
as being the front but they might not necessarily be so. It had a red flashing light on
the side away from us. And it did actually move as we went down into Kennoway because I
was going to the shop to get" (couldnt make this part out on audio tape)
(BD) "Did you see it on Saturday as well, last Saturday ?"
- "I havent seen the black triangle other than as certainly as far as I am
aware of other than Monday night and on Friday night there. I knew it was it, because
there is nothing that looks quite like it, (Mary Laughs) Again because I was
driving, Peter was able to keep an eye on it and thats when I saw it. But I actually
didnt lose sight of it until I got into the town proper heading down, I could
actually see it between some of the buildings it was dark as I was coming down to the
shops and it was only when I got down as far as that that the buildings completely blocked
it from view."
(MR) "Since Friday night, have you felt any different being in
this house. As Garry mentioned earlier the fact that there might be something watching you
if you like, or are you quite comfortable here, do you only see these things when you go
- "Well thats the other reason why Ive not got (Couldnt make her
next sentence out on tape) Because actually since Sunday Ive been really quite
nervous about staying here on my own. All of the time, one of the boys at least is with
me. I managed to spend most of Wednesday afternoon here on my own. But I am aware of these
things whatever they are around here and I can see the shimmering and I deliberately sat
and ignored them once (couldnt make out Marys next sentence here) And I
deliberately ignored them, Peter came home from school and we were chatting away about
things then I decided that I was going to focus on the one that was standing in that
corner for so long. And as soon as the face started coming into focus and it started
coming straight towards me and that was it Woooo No stop and that was it. You
could see the shimmering going back."
(GW) "Do you ever turn quickly as if something has turned away and
youve noticed something." ?
- "Always since then, just out of the far edges (Mary points to her eyes) yeah
I have. But I have had that since I moved in here anyway because there seems to be a dog
(MR) "A ghostly dog !"
- "Yeah. This house, I dont know if it has changed or not but it has a very
friendly sort of welcoming feeling to this house. It needs a lot of work done on it and
tender loving care (laughs) but never mind. But quite a few times out of the corner
of my eye I thought, thats a dog going by, and no dog. And it was quite a few weeks
ago my husband had been here and we were having a coffee the front doors were open and one
of my cats had been through feeding in the kitchen. And we heard this sound of a dog
trotting quite fast. You could hear the feet and the claws on the carpet. You heard the
footsteps going into the kitchen. The cat shot through here eyes like saucers tail
bristled out Zzzz (Mary makes hissing sounds replicating what the cat was like as it
rushed into he living room) The other one was in here she reacted as well they both
went on guard at the door growling and hissing and I said "Thats a dog come in
I said somebody is out with a dog for a walk and its slipped its lead and
its decided to come in you know. And I walked straight to the door there my husband
was behind me and we reacted as soon as we heard the dog going into the kitchen you could
actually hear it lapping out of the cats stainless steel water bowl. Nothing could have
got past me, and I went through to the kitchen and there was nothing there." (Mary
(MR) "Did you see the bowl or did you just hear
- "We just heard the lapping, you know, it sounded like a thirsty dog (Mary and
Malcolm Laugh) And the cats definitely reacted they were not happy because they
dont like dogs much because they have been chased a few times."
(MR) "Peter, can I ask you something ? We mentioned about the cats
reacting to the ghostly dog that you have here, but have you noticed the cats reacting to
the visitors these creatures.? You said they were standing there. Do the cats
(PM) "One of them has been hissing at them. The grey coloured one
was stroking it."
(MR) "One of them was stroking her !"
(PM) "Yes. And we were sitting on the coach next to her."
- (Couldnt make out Marys comments on tape here) "And the other
morning (Couldnt make out the name of the cat here) thats the little
white cat she went very much on the defensive. I could see the shimmer in front of the
bedroom door whatever it did or did something that she didnt like her back would go
up and she would hiss and spit at it she was very much on the defensive for some
(MR) "At any times have you noticed any small balls of light in
your room ?"
- "Ive never noticed that no."
[End of audio cassette tape one]
[Start of audiocassette two side one]
(Mary was already at this point explaining about other strange lights
that she had seen as I switched the audiotape to start recording again. I must point out
again here that as we were not using professional clip mikes, some of the testimony was
quite hard to make out whilst transcribing, (maybe a better ear than me could make it out
! But here is what followed with audiocassette two)
- "I used to sometimes see these blue beams of colour at the bedroom window they
would almost sweep across the room sometimes they would just come straight in. Other times
it would sweep across. There would be no emergency vehicles about. Usually an emergency
vehicle has got a light and got its siren on. And the angle that these were often
coming in at were actually from above. They were not coming in from like ground level and
this was on a second floor as well the bedroom was upstairs so they were definitely coming
in at a higher angle." (Garry explains to Mary that he works with ambulances and
knows the colours and intensity of the emergency services flashing lights on their
- "To be that intense, it would have to come fairly close and the only way you could
do that would be if it was at roof top level of the house across the road."
(MR) "How thick or thin were these beams of light that came in
- "At the bedroom window ! Well sometimes it would be more than one or it would be
the same one going round and coming back."
(MR) "Was the beam as thick as my arm ?"
- "Yeah. And that was from the bedroom window and I was right opposite it. (around 12
feet !) And it would come into the room quite a bit, about five or six feet into the
(MR) "Did this blue beam bend at all when it came into the room or
- "No it was straight, and it was quite a thick light and again it was just like
somebody shining a torch," (couldnt make out next sentence on audio tape)
(MR) "And the thickness again, did you say that it was the same as
my arm or was it thicker ?"
- "Id say that certainly some parts of it could be as thick as your arm and a
(MR) "Did it seem to have any purpose this light you know as it
was moving about the room ?"
- "No it didnt know, it was just a light coming in from the window. I can
remember me feeling uneasy about it and putting my head under the quilt."
(MR) "Now this happened at Cupar did you say ?"
- "Uh huh."
(MR) "And what time did this happen ?"
- "It happened every now and again and we moved to Cupar when Peter was about two and
a half weeks old so that was about 1986, the end of February 1986. And I left Cupar three
years ago or about two and a half years ago". (laughs)
(GW) "And what age are you ?"
- "Im 34 next month. The other thing that made me uneasy. There was something
unpleasant in the house at where we actually stayed and Ive discussed it with my
(MR) "At Cupar !"
- "Yeah. Right at the back of that house, not just my house there was something a bit
creepy. (Cant make sentence out) My husband was away for four months. And I
went out, I had forgot to bring the washing in at that time of the year it tends to freeze
so I thought Id have to bring it in and get it dried. And I went to get it in and
the time since I stepped out the door, there was this feeling of a presence,
Ive never felt that as strong at any time. And it was horrendous. I managed to get
the washing in and all of this time there was this feeling that was so strong it was
almost crushing me. Ive never felt anything so malevolent in all my life and by the
time I got into the house I actually was so freighted that I just dropped down onto my
knees I couldnt even stand and I just had to lean against the door (back door) to
try and close it, I was so freighted I could hardly move and the tears were just streaming
down my face it took me all my time to get the door locked and after that I could never go
out there again. The neighbours used to say that there were a few funny things
out there (out the back)."
(MR) "But there was nothing tangible that you could actually see
- "Nothing tangible but I have never felt anything so
.it was so repulsive, and
this feeling of malevolence
I wouldnt have said that it was going to get
me it was just a pure feeling of such hatred. It was so bad. Ive never felt like
(BD) "Have you noticed Peter experiencing anything like that, you
know becoming more spiritually aware of happenings ?"
- "Well yeah uh huh. Though in saying that, when he was little when we moved to that
house he told me that he had seen a ghost in that house."
(MR) "In Cupar ?"
- "Yeah, the white lady. There was a cupboard in his room and he said and he was only
about three at the time. He had been sitting playing on his bedroom floor and he said this
mist came out of this door in his bedroom (cupboard) and it was a white lady and she just
went away. He must have been dreaming. But he was quite adamant at the time that this is
what he had seen but he had actually forgotten about it but of course with all us talking
about things like this) But my son has had experiences when he was about two and a half.
The first house I was in was the haunted house. And when we moved in there, it didnt
start immediately it was a while after we had been there. He would end up waking crying
during the night something that he never did, he was very contented child and it was
always about this little man. He always appeared over at the corner near the
window and he said he would come round running round my bed and shaking me in my bed and
poking me with a stick. And, it was while he was still in that room and I was still in the
other one (couldnt make out Marys next sentence here) And one night I
heard this click click, click click, I thought, "Here we are, hes in the
cupboard", (couldnt make out the next sentence) So I went back to bed
and it started again, click click, click click. I said right, hes definitely up, (couldnt
make out the next sentence of Mary) And I went back into my bed, I was two seconds
back into bed when it started again so I just put my head under the pillows. (laughs) And
we used to hear the sound of somebody slowly walking up the stairs and pacing about on the
little landing between the bedroom doors. And I had a cousin to stay and she was really
scared one night and she said she heard somebody moving about, she didnt like
(GW) "And what about your friend, what doe she make about all this
- "My friend that was with us on that Monday
she was so severely shocked. Shes accepted it, she is doing
a lot better than I am definitely blocking things. Shes seen an awful lot and been
shown an awful lot," (couldnt make out next sentence from Mary)
(MR) "What age is Jane ?"
- "Jane is actually 38/39."
(BD) "Is it because she has opened up that shes got more
- "Well I think so yeah. Uh huh. She has actually seen them as well. And her daughter
(MR) "And what age is Susan (Janes daughter) ?"
- "She has just turned 15. She had her 15th birthday last week I think it
was. Jane she has sort of faced the fear of it, she was laid so wide open by it. I think
perhaps the husband thinks as well that because I have read a bit about it, about yeah
this is scary and just shut down completely and she has just completely being left open as
(GW) "Are there any reason what sparked your interest in all this
subject before ?"
- "I dont know. I was always interested in things that were a bit different and
Ive always been interested in these things. I think that all the nightmares that I
used to have has sparked some of the interests in the supernatural side. And it just
developed from there. But it wasnt until I got to about 19 or 20 or thereabouts,
late teens, that I really started to read anything or any books about UFOs. And I thought
"wow" there must be something in it."
(GW) (Garry was trying to express his point here but what he was
essentially trying to say to Mary was,) "The things you saw Mary what did you
think of them, what thoughts came into your mind ?"
- "Well on the initial sighting of the triangle. I remember shaking, trembling."
(GW) "You were looking at this thing, what made you look at it,
did you pick up anything from it, vibes in your mind."
(MM) "No. I was just so stunned, and they are all going
"wow" (laughs) I felt marvellous because its something that is
(GW) "Because you were in control at the time you felt O.K."
- "I felt O.K. yeah."
(GW) "Because you knew this was something that you could get away
- "Yes thats it. Ive actually said to Peter I feel that maybe I could
still sort of accept them, if they stood over there (points to window) and let me
have a good look at them they kept their distance and provided they didnt hover
around the bed and do things like they are doing at night
(GW) "Because thats you fear, its facing them.
Its not even them standing over their (Garry points to window) its them
coming through the door. Thats your fear."
- "Yeah its not nice because you just dont know what they are
(MR) "You spoke about your own psychic interests and experiences
from your early life. What about Jane ! Is Jane known for any strange incidents in her
- "Yes she has as well."
(MR) "She has !"
(MM) "Yes. In fact Peter actually mentioned earlier on. Its
things we sort of have seen and experienced and certain things that weve looked at
in magazines weve actually seen before sort of all our lives without even being
aware of it. Its a really odd sort of feeling. And its weird". (she
(MR) "Mmm Peter mentioned earlier on about the two
entities for want of a better word that he saw over there."
- "I think he said was it not three. !"
(MR) "Yeah three sorry, and eh, do you feel anything at the moment
in here in the living room ?"
- "Well I do tend to sort of look about. For me since yesterday, I feel
(couldnt make Marys sentence out here) But its not as obvious now as it
was since Sunday up till Friday night. Sunday night was the strongest when I came home
from Susans I blocked that up extremely well. And then there have been a couple of
occasions through the week where something definitely wanted to be seen and this
shimmering started really really strongly and it was almost like it was billowing (not
sure if that was the correct word used) round the edges and I said "NO" (laughs)
"DAD Come Here" (laughs).
(BD) "Well thats what to do until you have built up courage
to protect yourself, just block it off. I mean if you see something out of the corner of
- "Well thats what happened
(GW) "I mean, if anything was going to happen it would have
happened that night."
(GW) "And understand that it never."
- "I just dont trust them."
(GW) "And what makes you not trust them ?"
- "Because they are a complete unknown and everybody who has got a lot more power
.I think actually if they were in front of us a lot of them
we could physically harm, I think that is why they are appearing a lot of these entities.
My impression is that an awful lot of them if they were to appear physically if it
wasnt for their superior mental and psychic powers then we could do them an awful of
damage. In the form that they are appearing and going around us at the moment, we can walk
through them in fact they have deliberately started doing that" (laughs,
couldnt make out what she said next)
(MR) "Do you think thats their real form, their true form,
or are they masquerading as something else ?"
- "I dont know, I just dont know, I think they can be as thorough as they
want to be. I think they were collecting things taking samples actually. And when we went
back to that site, that rock, it was a proper great big rock, as if its came from an
old stone built house or wall or something somewhere at some time. And whenever a rock has
been lying there for a number of years you get a build up soil and grass around the edges.
And it was quite a big sort of rock about that (spaced her hands cant remember
now what size she estimated) Quite a hefty thing, it had been lifted straight out
there was no smearing at the edges and was put about three foot to the side. The only time
that Ive ever done that was to go looking for worms to go fishing."
(MR) "And this was quite a heavy rock !"
- "Yes, this was a good heavy rock."
(BD) "Is it still there ?"
- "I dont know I havent been back, and it was just over to that that we
found that wee igloo thing."
* (This refers to a small and very intricate little construction that
was found in the area where the Fife Incident occurred. It was made out of long grass and
weeds and was woven like a wicker basket. Mary explains what it was like)
(BD) "You actually found it ?"
(GW) "How big was it ?"
(MM) "It was about this high (makes size with her hands about
three feet and about the same diameter) and beautifully constructed and had a little
doorway in the front."
(MR) "Do you think though that some kids maybe could have made
- "It was really complex, and it was perfect."
(MR) "What was it made out of ?"
- "It was weeds and things, it was all these weeds and grass and things."
(MR) "Any twigs or that ?"
- "I cant recall seeing any twigs I was just so gobsmacked when I saw that and
there were other things as well."
(GW) "And they (the beings) were carrying these
things about !"
- "Well I dont know about that but I certainly saw these beings
(MR) "Just going back to
- "And canisters."
(MR) "Did you mention on the phone, I cant quite recall, but
did you mention on the phone a strange smell around this or was
- "No this was something else it was again when I stayed at Cupar, it really scared
me when I read Whitley Streibers book when he mentioned about these visitations from
these greys. It was at some point he got to smell them or something. It was a smell like
burnt paper. Now umpteen times I had got up during the night after going to bed and my
husband had done it as well (couldnt make out Marys next sentence) and
we could smell this, it was a very acrid smell this burnt paper. And we could smell this
smell really strongly and wed literally be prowling the house but we couldnt
actually pin this down anywhere. Wherever we went, it smelt stronger from somewhere else (Marys
laughs) and there wasnt anything in the house burning and Im a smoker but
it wasnt that kind of smell. It was definitely burnt paper and that scared us."
(MR) "Getting back to this igloo thing whatever it was, you
mentioned, did the chap from Quest take photographs of this ?"
- "He has, he has numerous photographs of lots of things, he has also got he also has
my tape measure which I want back."
(MR) "What happened to the actual thing (this igloo structure)
was it left there ?"
- "We left it as it was, I dont know if anybody has ever been up there."
(MR) " And to your mind, what did make it seem so strange ?"
- "Why would anybody want to build anything like that. And if anybody did build
anything like that its a huge amount of effort to expend for such a little
(MR) "Was it bendy, solid,
- "We didnt actually touch it we just passed it and took some photographs of
it, but maybe I should have went inside that you know. It really was very very delicate
looking it was so finely woven. It was really impressive actually." (laughs)
(BD) "But you didnt take anything yourself" ? (Billy
was referring to Mary taking her own photographs of this thing)
- "My younger son, both of us and nasty cheap cameras which arent working very
well. My son did take some photographs, he came out with us the first day, so Ive
got some more to show you, and I did actually take a photograph of my friends
daughter (couldnt make this part out on audio tape) The one that Ive
got, I sent one off to Quest but the one that Ive got its more a bleached out
you dont see it very clearly the camera wasnt suitable for getting a good
close up picture of anything."
(MR) "Im sure there are many more questions that Id
like to ask, but before I do close this, are there anything else above what you have told
us this evening, which I must thank you for by the
- "Ive had quite a few craft sightings numerous. The Monday after the initial
sighting, Monday 30th of September it was about 9:35pm. I turned up the hill to
come up this road, and one of these stars, I call them stars in
quotation marks. It came shooting over from the right and sort of curved round it was
almost as though it was keeping parallel with us and I though, "Oh my God they are
there again". And I lost sight of that in the trees. I just left the car at the front
door and Im standing glaring at this thing and I thought that its just a star
thats there, it wasnt this thing that had been flying along. I came in, shut
the curtains in here, checked the phone, went upstairs to the first window looking out
that way, and thats when I saw it, it rose from the tree line over there and it just
sat there twinkling and stuttering and (couldnt make next sentence out on tape).
Then I cant remember if it was then that it moved a little over to the right, yeah
it was then. After a few minutes, a little red light came across, a very small red light
in relation to this white one, came across and joined it. It kept a certain distance from
it. The two of them in tandem moved slightly a little to the right, twinkling away and all
the rest of it. I actually did send letters to Tony Dodd at Skysearch (she meant Quest)
about this, this detail of what I had seen. The little red one arced away to the right
and I lost it in the lights over the lights towards Edinburgh way, eventually lost it in
the glow. The white one continued to sort of sit there and twinkle away then it moved very
slowly a bit further over to the right (coughs) And it actually started flashing.
And it was about three sequences of three if you like, it was flash flash flash, then
three seconds later flash flash flash and then a few seconds later flash flash flash. And
I just sat watching it and I felt really quite content by this time I had shut the both
sets of the hall windows Peter had seen this as well, and moved into my room and I was
actually just standing at my bedroom window watching away and I saw something flashing
started to flash above my head, so I just looked up and at the edge of my bedroom window I
could see this thing coming over, just like that, and it was so slow it took a couple of
minutes to come full into view. To start off with it was two white lights like that (she
shows me with her hands where the two white lights were) they were flashing on and off
at the same time, and it just kept coming and coming. Then there was this like a truncated
cone with a big white light on the centre. Small red light on that side and the underside
of the thing was another white light, and I think just below there a bit further into the
cone of the thing was another white light but Im not very sure about that one. On
the side of this cone in the light of this white light, you know when you see those model
things like the Star Wars craft have they have lumps and things, you see sort of shapes,
(Mary is referring to the type of space ships in the Star Wars films where all around them
they have pipes and protrubances and things) And this thing kept coming over and
coming over and there were two more of these white lights, and it was all in a big
rectangle. And the four outer lights at the corners, they were all flashing on and off at
the same time about once per second, flash, flash, flash. And it went straight over
towards where that other light was just sitting there it wasnt flashing anymore (couldnt
make out Marys next sentence here on tape) like a pathfinder or something I
dont know but it was quite well above that. It went away headed out towards the sea
over that way. The white light remained there and there was other aircraft now and again
in the vicinity, Edinburgh airports over that way and theres Leuchars (another
airport) over that way."
(GW) "Is Edinburgh far from here ?"
- "Its just across the water there."
(GW) "So how far was" ? (couldnt make his question
out on tape)
- "Eh, Im not sure, I know by road it seems to take an awful long time (laughs)
but eh you know you see all the lights over there at Edinburgh and whatever it is over
there. But anyway, this thing sort of disappeared up into the distance. The feeling that I
got was like ecstatic, I was so peaceful and happy it was just so wonderful to see this.
That was all the feelings that I had at the time."
(BD) (Couldnt make out Billys question here as both he
and Mary spoke at the same time)
- "Well I was only really scared a couple of times, I felt a bit edgy, but I
havent really been particularly scared on the whole. Im either very calm when
I saw that, it was lovely. And it was a few minutes, the white starry thing was just
sitting there just twinkling away and a few minutes after the rectangle went over there
was like a big aircraft passenger aircraft went over the exact same route but it was much
(MR) "So how far
- "I dont know, I could tell you but from the upstairs window as that sort of
rectangle got to the sort of edge of one of the electric pylons there it appeared to be at
an estimate, twice the height of that pylon there, so I dont know from that
elevation how high that would be. I cant remember the maths (laughs) But this
big aircraft definitely was going in the same flight path as the rectangle but much much
much higher. And it would have taken it straight over that white light as well but as it
was like approaching it, that white light died down, started to die down and it moved
exactly the same way as that little red light had done before. It kept on the same level
but it arced away and I lost it in the lights. That was just one of the things that
(MR) "But that one made you feel quite happy ?"
- "Oh yeah. Which is a shame, because Ive lost the edge of that feeling now
because Ive been so scared since Sunday because that feeling really stayed with me
for quite a long time and it was really wonderful. And then it was the Thursday of that
week my husband had managed to get up here, and the three of us, thats my youngest
son as well, I think it was the Thursday, it may have been the Friday, no it definitely
was the Thursday, we saw another one of those things, it rose again from the trees over
there, it came up, and this is the only time that Ive ever seen one flying if you
like, erratically. Before you could actually see it above the trees you could see this
blue glow coming up and then the bright light comes and it was going about. My husband
actually saw it. A couple of times there were quite a lot of aircraft about a couple of
times there were aircraft too close for it, it seemed to dip down behind the trees again.
And at one point it actually came down in front of the trees and it was zipping about a
little bit sort of erratically. My husband had to go away because his father phoned and
when he came back by this time Peter had had a look at it and he said "mum its
a triangle because you could see it". We actually saw this, there was definitely a
red light and I cant remember if it was a green light or whatever but it looked like
an aircraft. Peter had been watching it with his binoculars and he said "mum
thats a triangle". And you could see the shape, and we actually watched this
Ive not told my husband because quite honestly I dont think he believes us. So
from this white light which we had been watching it seemed to change into a shape like an
aircraft, it was signalling like an aircraft with these lights and it flew at the same
height as an aircraft towards Edinburgh way."
(MR) "Talking about aircraft, have there been any RAF jets or any
Military jets in this area ?"
- "Loads, stacks of them. I was speaking with a neighbour, Jane had said that she had
never known so many night flying aircraft since that night we had our sighting over
Falkland, that night included. Any my neighbour down the road was saying over the last
three weeks he said, normally they stop about eleven or something but its just been
constant noises of aeroplanes. Oh, that big rectangle thing, when that went over I
actually thought it was an aeroplane coming over because it was like the hum, like a
hercules (aircraft) going over it just sort of curles (!) over its quite a
constant sort of
..it seemed to be making that sort of noise."
(MR) "The jets that you spoke about, you said that they had been
quite a few, have you seen and heard them, I mean, is it quite a loud roar ?"
- "Well you get a loud roar, sometimes if theyre further away theyre not
(MR) "When was the last loud roar that you heard from a Jet
- "Eh, to be quite honest
..certainly when I was down at the
neighbours having a cup of tea on Friday afternoon they were screaming about then."
(MR) "But what direction were they going, were they going in any
particular direction, out towards Freuchie
- "Ive also seen a helicopter which I thought was another thing. And I
dont know what day it was but it was flying with its nose pointed right down.
My son said that sometimes they have to fly like that but Ive never seen one flying
at such a heavy angle, eh Military one."
(MR) "And what colour was it ?"
- "I cant remember. I didnt see any lights or whether it was using infra
red I dont know thats just occurred to me (laughs) And it came that way
(motions with her hand cant recall the direction she stated) it went right
over going that way. And then it was circling around the valley over there to the right of
Kennoway, Leven, Methil (Fife Towns) and then it went right
make out her finishing sentence on tape)
(MR) "And this was at night ?"
(MR) "What time would this be ?"
- (Laughs) "eh, Im not sure."
(At this point her cat shot past and interrupted the conversation for a
few seconds. On the audiotape we return to the part where Mary took Garry, Billy and
myself to the front window where we all looked out as Mary showed us exactly where this
helicopter had been)
(We then returned with our conversation back to the night in question
and Mary then produced a map and placed it on a table and proceeded to discuss with us the
events in tandem as they occurred that night.)
- "What we saw was trees, theres actually trees lining this road here this back
road to these farms and things. And in the dark, all we could see was the tree lines and
to us it looked like woods. And, but the wood was actually behind it and this craft thing
had actually taken up most of the space in there apparently. But all these
beings were running up and down. This glow lit up most of this area it was
(MR) "Right but is this the second sighting that you are on about
- "Yeah, Uh Huh, this is the sort of like area two. It was after that that I
..this is the odd bit I said, "lets go on to this road"(points
(MR) "To get a better look ?"
- "Yeah, and I said we could maybe see this better but theres other (couldnt
make this sentence out) and
.maybe it was this one, its a bit
(MR) "If your not sure dont mark it". (Malcolm
referring to Mary marking the map where all the incidents took place)
- "The third site was on the way to Ladybank."
(At this point there was a break and the conversation whilst the audio
tape was still running centred around photographs taken by Brian Rooney and sent to Quest
and that Mary would love copies of these photos)
- "This is the first site here". (again Mary points to her map of the area)
"We were actually sitting just before this bridge looking over here this is where we
found the cotton in there." (Mary is referring to some cotton substance that they
found but this was purely a common substance of the environment. Mary then showed us some
photographs that were taken by her son of the area in question and mentions that the trees
the grass and everything in that area was dripping with this cotton like
substance. She then showed us a photograph and you can hear her on tape saying this is the
mark of my friends daughter shoulder and continuing with saying, "She also
ended up with an oval graze about three quarters of an inch long and about half an inch
wide it was made up of a very thin horizontal scrapes. My friend ended up with something
similar". Mary then shows us photographs of some marks or substances found in the
grass which she says were very sticky and stank to high heaven. She goes on.
- "I never actually touched it, this stuff was rotten
(MR) "At the second site ?"
- "At the second site. That was where we were at the end (couldnt make this
part out on tape) This one we didnt use the flash, but we found these marks on
the road it was where that back road actually (Couldnt make out) Its
tar macked out and then it turned a corner but its at that corner that its
actually got a track going through the woods and this was where that turn off was. You
start looking at the ground and you think that its the tyre marks of a vehicle until
you look at the marks going onto the road. And it was going round in concentric rings and
it seemed to form a massive tear drop shape and it went way up the road. I dont
think Brian got a picture of it because on day 2 it was raining and you couldnt see
(MR) "And have you been back to this bit ?"
- "Uh huh. Now these ones (Again Mary is referring to photographs in front of us) are
the ones I think is something odd. These are the ones which my son took this is the view
looking over there he was just copying Brian taking pictures. Now look at this, this
bloody thing here, there is something wrong about these pictures and I didnt
actually realise it at the time. Now there is actually a whole there."
(GW) "I could blow that up Billy" (Garry was referring to
enlarging this particular photograph)
(MR) "Is that not like a wall, or hay or something ?"
- "We dont know if thats what (couldnt make this part out on
tape) I dont know. It just seems really odd. Ive actually had a look
through a magnifying glass and it looks really odd. Especially when you get the two
photographs that were taken, that one and this one. But that cotton is was very fine in
texture and the place was dripping with it and it was just blasted through the field side
and there were no plants there to do that. Quest actually has some samples of that we
collected samples and we gave it to Brian as well."
(MR) "The farmers would be able to tell you if they have came
across this type of thing."
- "Well Peter has actually said that he has seen that as well down at my mums
as well, and the other area in the woods, off that track theres an area, we
havent really gone right over there. We actually realised that its covering
too big an area in the time that we had but there was some of this on the trees there but
nothing like that lot was it was dripping. So weve got samples of that."
(At this point we discussed other aspects of the photographs that Mary
- "I really wish that I had a decent camera or video camera because I saw quite a few
(BD) "Is that not a bush !" (Billy refers to one
photograph that Mary felt odd)
- "Its possible, but I dont recall seeing any bushes there. I passed by
yesterday and had a quick glance and I still dont think there are any bushes the
bales have actually been moved away now. Yeah that was it, Tuesday the 15th of
October on the way to Kirkcaldy Peter saw loads of saucers, some of them were like moving
they were in specific areas of the sky, and he said, "Oh theyre dancing in
patterns". My friend was here last weekend and stared out of that window and watched
all these things. Over there, there are some buildings I dont know if you will be
able to see them or not (couldnt make out next sentence) Beyond that was this
huge blue glow this is in the early hours of Sunday morning. And this glow to start off
was very faint and then it got brighter, and brighter and it stayed the same usual colour,
blue, and it was big, it was well above the buildings you could see it and we were
silhouetted in this and I dont know what was going on we gave up watching and came
and sat down
(End of side one of audio cassette two)
(Start Side two audio cassette two)
At the this point Garry Wood asks Mary if it is OK to come back and
visit her as we would certainly be in the area and when we are could we call her and
arrange to see her. She replied yes to this. Let us mow continue with the conversation and
we pick it up more or less when the interview is over and we are just generally speaking
to each other about the events discussed.
- "Well whatever is going on, they are certainly very busy in this area. And Sharon (Coul)
was actually going on a skywatch and she said we are leaving at half nine and I will give
you a phone before we go. But it came to sort of ten to ten and I hadnt heard
anything from her and the boys were really wanting to go, I said OK we can go up take a
look and if she is not there we are coming straight back. However, we sat there for a
while and she wasnt there. And Peter and I could see very far away in the distance,
two lines of street lights Im not sure where they were well into the distance. And
right between that, and to me I could see a mist coming in it had a very faint blue glow
and it seemed to be getting closer and I got really spooked. Peter could see it as well
Alex couldnt. Prior to that Peter and I and I think Alex saw it as well was like,
there were a lot of cloud last night, and we saw what looked like three red lights in a
triangle shape. Thats when we got that funny blue mist and I got scared and I just
got this feeling that something is going to happen". (couldnt make her next
(MR) "Mary, is it OK if I take a photograph of yourself ?"
- "Id rather not". (laughs)
(MR) "Thats OK. Its like I said on the phone. At the
end of the day whatever you feel happy about. You are the main person in this."
(BD) "See the next time we come along, maybe we could bring a
psychic with us ?"
- "Yeah that would be O.K."
(BD) "I mean, your wee boy is seeing things as well." !
(MM) "Now my friend said that there were three faces on that wall
when she was talking to you, she said they are very concerned and that they belong to this
house. She said they are very concerned about you (as in me Mary) She said my face was
glowing black, she could see my face going completely black because I was in so much fear.
And this was before Sunday night. And later on she says that it was starting to look
better she said only half of your face in black. She said if you see what I mean its
not the half of your face thats in shadow but she says it was this side of your face
that was black (Points to side of face cant recall what side this was) She
said you are beginning to calm down a bit now". (laughs)
(BD) "If you carry on with what you are doing, just blocking it
- "Ive read a few things about this but nothing excessively."
(MR) "Obviously we cannot stop you from reading, its good
for you because
- "I havent felt like it actually, but theres that magazine I bought the
night of the incident the night of the initial sighting. Peter actually calls it our
big night out. I didnt read that magazine for over a week till my husband was
(At this point there is a general discussion about UFO Magazine the
main British UFO publication)
- "I dont actually mind about people wanting the story but certainly dont
want anything given out that could identify us because weve got kids involved
(MR) "Well, youll certainly get the respect from SPI it
certainly wont be leaked from us. Well leave you some UFO sighting account
forms just to document the previous ones youve saw and any future ones that you see.
And Id also like to leave you this white paper essentially just to do drawings,
its so important that I get you to do the drawing. The one you saw initially saw on
the night that banked over and the one that went over your house here. Any drawing
anything at all
- "Thats what I think is really odd, somehow I think thats its
rectangular but I cant actually recall really seeing its shape. All I can
really recall is seeing its lights underneath the thing and yet that entire sighting
lasted maybe 15 minutes from that first white light till after that thing went away and
the little white light went away."
(At this point Garry talks about some UFO video footage [nothing to do
with the Fife case]
- "I found out that my neighbour down the road said to me that they were watching a
really odd light she told me, and I said "When was that" ? and she couldnt
remember what day it was but it was certainly in the last couple of weeks. What she
described sounded very like a travelling star, you know the very white luminous light. She
said "It was just above that building there" which is just down the road they
actually have some out buildings down there. She said "It was just above those"
she says her husband had been sitting looking at it out of his window they dont have
curtains in that room. And she said, "what are you looking at" and he said
"This light. And they had a look and she said its just an aeroplane and he said
that no its not, its not an aeroplane he said its just sitting there.
And he was actually so curious that he went outside and she didnt know what that
might have been."
(MR) "And this again was just recently?"
(GW) "Do you find Sharon quite helpful ? (Sharon Coul Marys
friend and someone who was looking at her sighting)"
- "Yes shes good to have a talk to and there was some odd experience that
happened and we ended up staying with her on Friday night. You could almost sort of
picture these things (couldnt make out Marys next sentence) and I was
so scared to come home, and we stayed the night and you could feel those precenses there (At
Sharons home) she could feel the same. If one comes close you go really icy
cold. Even if you are sitting next to that radiator and its on. You can feel that
icy cold and you can feel a cold area its not a breeze its just cold air in
this area. All the hairs on the backs of our hands were standing straight up you got this
tickle it was like static electricity. We were getting that. She could feel it as well and
her dog could see it her dog was a bit upset. On Saturday morning we were sitting having a
cup of tea and her electric went off my oldest son and I both heard (couldnt make
the next sentence out) It was actually the mains switch that had been switched
(GW) "When the article comes out in the magazine (Meaning the
UFO Magazine written by Tony Dodd and assisted by Brian Rooney) people will come up
here looking ."
(MR) "Yes but they wont know to come to this house."
(GW) "He is going to make sure that he isnt going to name
(MR) "Yes he wont disclose the area."
(GW) "We are just letting you know that the article will cause
people and reporters to look for you. You will be surprised how they will find you."
(BD) "Its a small community you only need to give a chap on
a door and say
(GW) "People will offer Tony Dodds and other people money just to
get a hold of you. You understand this, and once they get you, youll never get
peace. Even if you move away theyll find you."
(MR) "Yes but we will just have to make sure that this wont
(GW) "That will happen."
(BD) "Are you in touch with Tony Dodds ?"
- "Ive got his number."
(BD) "OK maybe you should phone him up and say dont put it
in just now. Because its your story its your
(GW) "You do what you feel, the way the press and the way things
are, theyll go through everything and theyll say you will make a good article
and it will bring people and it will help you and it will make people aware."
- "They have already had their moment". (I think this is what Mary said here
on tape though I am not sure !)
(GW) "What will happen is, they will write a good story and the
Editor will say "Thats not good enough". There were aliens and the aliens
were sexually molesting me and doing other things."
(MR) "You had that with the News of The World didnt you
(GW) "Look what they did to me."
- "I dont buy the papers."
(GW) "Look what they did to me. "aliens took me to meet alien
blond in a space ship" (Garry was referring to this the headline in the News Of
The World Newspaper) Thats what they done to me. It said, Ambulance service
chief abducted by aliens" Im not a chief of the ambulance service !!! If my
bosses see that they would be like pheew. And this is what they do." (Garry was
letting Mary know at this point how the press could make fun of her story and get facts
wrong. He mentions above the stupid press he personally got when his story of his own UFO
abduction on the A70 was featured in the News of The World)
(MR) "Anyway do contemplate and do think what I said I know that
you are not happy with hypnosis, but if you do change your mind its always an option
available to you its entirely up to you and its in your hands."
(At this point 1996, Malcolm was in favour of using hypnosis as a tool
to retrieve any hidden subconscious recall from people who claimed experiences of UFO
abduction or just close proximity UFO sightings, I dont advocate the use of hypnosis
now as I do believe people can lie and please the hypnotherapist, thanks Kevin McClure for
changing my mind. However, that said, I do believe that the hypnosis SPI used on both
Garry Wood and Colin Wright, did unblock some amazing stuff, information that Garry
himself puzzles over and believes occurred.)
- "You said that (Marys talks to Garry) it mucked up your life that you
didnt have any memories of being abducted yourself until you got hypnosis."
(GW) "Oh I remember clear as day seeing a UFO being in my car one
minute and the next being nowhere. I remember that."
- "So you were actually lifted outwith the car !"
(GW) "I wasnt in the car. I remember clear as day standing
somewhere and I said "Wheres my car, wheres Colin" and Im
looking about in blackness. I thought I had died. I thought, "Wheres my car
wheres Colin", and Im looking about and I thought am I dead ! Thats
what I thought. I thought, "What now" ! And then 15 seconds went by and I am in
my car again. I remember that clear as day. Colin remembers that clear as day."
(MR) "Do you know much about Garrys case ?"
- "I dont know, Sharon had the video and it was on and we were sitting chatting
away, we didnt really watch it apparently shes got quite a few things like
that. But I havent actually really watched it."
(GW) "That was one of the reasons why I contacted him". (Malcolm
Robinson) and I didnt get back in contact with you (Mary) I felt terrible
and I said that to you (Malcolm). I was going to contact her, and I thought if I
contact her and say anything hell (Malcolm) blow his lid at me."
(MR) "I didnt want Garry to say too much to you because
its so important that" (Garry butted in but I was going to finish with that
I didnt want Garry to colour her thoughts with what he had experienced himself).
(GW) "I respect your thinking. I just go and speak with people and
see about it. That morning, after I had contacted you I contacted him (Malcolm) I
did, and I said that to you. I told Malcolm not to actually contact you because I was
going to contact you first. But Sharon Coul got in touch with Malcolm and thats how
it come about. As I said to you on the phone (Mary) if I tell you too
(MR) "SPI are the largest group in Scotland there are smaller
groups obviously some just springing up."
- "Do you ever advertise in those magazines ?"
(MR) "We used to."
(GW) "They had their own magazine (Enigmas)."
(BD) (Billy stated something here, which I couldnt make out on
- "Peter is actually drew some stuff tonight."
(BD) "I was going to say, could you give me copies of these."
(MR) "Yes yes."
- "Here is some of his stuff." (Mary then brought out some of Peters
drawings of lights/UFOs that he had seen in the Fife sky) "These ones
has been drawing all sorts of stuff since then. Right, here we go. This is the one that
was standing still, but there were loads of these some of them were individual some of
them were two sets of three and he said (Peter) like they were crossing."
(MR) "Were they going up and down like yo yos ?"
- "I think he actually described it more like they were going in and out like that.
Some of them were going around in spirals. And these ones (points to Peters
drawings) were in a set of three going round to a point like square dancing ! (laughs)
doing a little circle, coming up, doing a little circle and coming up doing a little
circle and going down and then they would go back to the centre. Things like that. He said
they were all like keeping to their own part of the sky he said there were loads of them
(MR) "And this was all on the 23rd of September ?"
- "No these were the ones
.I think it was Tuesday the 15th . And the
other day they had both seen (Brothers) Peter saw about 5 or 6 I saw about two of those.
But they were just there very briefly. And I dont know whether it would be the sun
hitting them or something but they were like a yellowy colour on the top and white on the
underneath. It was almost like they were jumping about playing peek a boo."
(MR) "And would it be OK to get copies of these ?"
(MR) "Including this as well ?"
(BD) "Can we take copies of everything, photographs." ?
(GW) "What clothes did you have on that night ? Did you notice
anything odd or out of line or anything ?"
- "Not as far as I know. The one thing that I did feel
(GW) "Did you have your seat belt on ?"
- "Yep, I had my seat belt on."
(GW) "It was undisturbed." ! (I think this is what Garry
said on tape)
- "Yeah. I felt this weird sensation of something right at the end of (couldnt
make next sentence out, but it might have been right at the end referring to
the close of the encounter) and I could hear Jane and them all talking and there was
this feeling as if I was lying on my side with my head round that way but it wasnt
just round that way it was really straight back and it was as if I was coming down from a
sitting position, but at the same time I still felt as if I had my seatbelt on, and I
could hear them talking and I just rammed the car into gear and left. It was really
(GW) "And the cars a Vauxhall ?"
- "It was yeah, Ive changed it". (laughs)
(GW) "An Astra. ?"
- "No it was a Cavalier."
(GW) "A Cavalier." ?
(MR) "Youve changed it since then ?"
- "Ive changed it since then, Ive been waiting on the finance coming
(MR) "It would have been nice to have got a photograph of the
(GW) "Thats what I was thinking. My car was a year old at
the time my Astra
- "There was nothing that you could tell on it or anything."
(GW) "It was only a year old and it started to decay." (Garry
is referring to the car that both he and Colin were in when they encountered a large 3
tiered domed shaped craft hovering over the isolated A70 road back in August
of 1992 and which subsequently as Garrys car was directly underneath this object, it
emitted a heavy shower of like silvery snow flakes which came down from the underside of
the object and hit Garrys car which then catapulted both men into inky
(BD) "And obviously you have washed your clothes since then as
- "Yeah. I couldnt even tell you what I was wearing."
(GW) "Basically what we are looking for is any evidence that we
can obtain that says "look, this is real this is happening. And if we can obtain our
evidence, ie, video footage of sightings on that night. Anything unusual like that cocoon
thing. Were looking for evidence to say, these two females have come out with their
story so far we have obtained this evidence in the manner with their story, how can this
- "Well that little igloo thing was quite weird
(GW) "If its there well find it."
- "I dont know if it will be there, the area was heavily trampled. Like I say,
there are loads of rabbits in the area and they do their little scrapes and everything.
But it seemed to be quite a reasonable size as if somebody had taken out chunks of soil
but that was all hanging out the roots of trees (!) And that was all in at the root
bases of the trees and plants."
(At this point Garry asked for directions to get from Marys home
back onto the main road).
End of the Fife Interview conducted by SPI with Witnesses Mary Morrison
and her son Peter Morrison.
MALCOLMS THOUGHTS ON THE INTERVIEW WITH MARY AND PETER.
Well there you have it. The above is word for word what was said on the
two C90 audio tapes that we recorded with the two of the witnesses. Garry asked a lot of
questions that night as you will have read and because it was through Garry that SPI got
to know about this case (and Sharon Coul a local UFO researcher) that I was happy for
Garry to ask away, so to speak. Garry as mentioned elsewhere in this article, is searching
for his own answers. Garry has found himself at the sharp end of a close proximity UFO
Incident, too much to go into here, and even today November 2003, Garry Wood is still
looking for answers to the UFO question and also what happened to him. We didnt have
lapel microphones, and some of the interview whilst being transcribed from audio tape to
text, was difficult to hear. But I hope that the above gives you the reader a feel for
what it was like for both Mary and her son Peter.
We never did get that second interview with Mary (for reasons stated
above) and one can only accept the witnesses statements as the truth. They did not
want their names in the newspapers, they never sought to make any money from this. I did
off tape, state quite clearly to Mary that I was going to do a write up for this case and
probably put it out in one of the few UFO magazines that were out at that time. I believe
that after she read the story featured in UFO Magazine, she was none too happy with the
way it come over and perhaps wanted no more to do with UFOlogists. That said, she did work
with David Colman and I do hope that Davids own research into this case, will itself
see the light of day. For it is only right that David Colmans research gets
published. I look forward to it.
ADDED INFORMATION AT THE 11TH HOUR. !
Just as I was about to conclude this article, I received some
information from Sharon a friend of witness Mary Morrison and herself a UFO researcher who
lives in Buckhaven in Fife. She informs me she is no longer in contact with Mary, or
should I say Mary is no longer in contact with her ! Marys letters to Sharon dried
up and Sharon doesnt know why. Sharon was a very good friend of Mary, and not only
did Sharon provide a comfort, but Sharon herself experienced quite a number of bizarre
phenomenon that occurred at her own home as this e-mail to Malcolm Robinson dated 18th
November 2003 shows. Here is what Sharon had to say to me, Sharon changed a few names to
protect witness identity
Here's what I remember of the Fife Incident and how I became involved
and also what happened to me and mine. Full of strange coincidences and events but all
Around about the 23rd September 1996 I had an extremely vivid dream or
of standing in the street near where I lived and watching a black triangular craft, a
black wedge craft and about half a dozen UK or US air force jets flying overhead, this was
so real I felt I was really there. Also around this time I sent an advert into UFO Mag
requesting info. on any Fife UFO encounters. Mark Birdsall wrote back telling me I was too
late for the issue in question but he'd put my ad in the next issue of the Mag, i.e. the
issue that Mary Morrison bought.
On 14th October at about 3 o'clock my phone rang and it was a woman
asking if I was the person in the advert in the UFO Mag. I asked if she'd seen a UFO and
she said "lots of them". I asked if she'd seen any entities and she said
"hundreds". She hadn't been alone, she was with three other people, in their
car. I said I'd like to meet them and we agreed they'd come to my house that day at
They arrived at 5, only three of them. Both women were in their mid-
thirties. Mary, her son Peter aged 10, and her friend Jane. Jane's daughter 15 didn't come
with them and I never did meet her. We all started talking UFOs at once. There was so much
they told me that I only know the minute by minute story from what Mary eventually wrote
to Dave Coleman, (the one he printed in his cover up magazine). There was no way I could
keep up with their story in one sitting. There was too much to it.
There had been a large black triangular craft on the ground and
hundreds, not dozens and not loads but hundreds of grey entities on the ground & in
the air, and also an orangey-red ball hanging in the air just above the ground. Amongst
these grey types were a few tan coloured ones, roughly estimated to be about a dozen to 15
or so, these were very tall.
Jane was particularly affected I thought, she said the entities were
"full of love". She was really like someone who'd had a deeply religious
experience, almost high. A was a bit more serious and her son seemed quite relaxed though
maybe a wee bit anxious. They told me a top UFO researcher from Quest International had
been on the case and I assumed for a good few days that he'd actually been on the scene.
They said his advice on what to do to stop the entities when they felt invaded was just to
turn away. They weren't happy with this advice as it wasn't working.
A Scottish researcher working for Quest, I think, was sent to the
scene, had visited them, and took photos of the scene etc. He was also witness to a
strange object woven from grass that they'd found. Some sort of "nest". These
were reported in the papers a couple of months later somewhere else in Scotland and put
down to student art. He took photos of the scene and probably the "nest", I
don't know for sure.
They told me that a few days after the 23 Sept encounter they were in
the pub. A got talking to a man at the bar who was showing off his tattoos. He stopped mid
spiel and said, "you have been abducted by aliens, and so has she" and he
pointed at B. I asked them if they cornered him for an explanation and they said they'd
tried but he didn't know what they were talking about so they gave up. There had been so
many unexplainable things going on since the 23rd it was pointless, as it was just one
other thing to add to the loads of others. They'd been haunted, had power cuts, seen black
helicopters around their homes, loads of stuff.
Jane was emphatic that everyone should know the truth about the reality
of UFOs. She told me she previously knew nothing at all about UFOs and never ever
considered them, whereas Mary said she'd read a few books on the subject prior to their
experience, namely Whitley Streiber's Communion and some magazines. I think there was some
confusion about this in some of the reports printed in the press and magazines. They told
me these "things" are around us all of the time but we just cant see them. They
also showed me bruises, some quite fresh and some very yellow but still vivid that they'd
somehow gotten on Sept. 23rd.
Some of the bruises looked like they'd been gripped by hands. They said
Susan had a particularly nasty set of marks on her shoulder. I felt they were very nice,
normal people and that if it was all made up then they were good at it. I believed them.
The only help I felt I could offer them was in offering them the chance
to talk to someone else who'd had the same experience. They agreed. I telephoned Lee Close
and explained I wanted to get in touch with Garry Wood. I also turned a lamp on as it was
getting dark and the light bulb blew. It's worth mentioning this as you'll see later.
They left my house at 10.10pm with a promise to keep in touch. I'd
enjoyed the chat with them and sort of amused myself with the thought it WAS a joke but a
most enjoyable story. I sat on the couch lit a cigarette and lifted the TV remote to
change the channel. Immediately my hands and arms floated up, out-of-body into the air.
For a split second I thought they were in the air but I looked down and there they were
holding a fag and the telly button. This was extremely real. When I focussed on my hands
they were where they were supposed to be but the minute I thought of anything else up
they'd go again. I couldn't make it stop. I became slightly alarmed and went to phone my
partner who'd gone to work about 8pm. Even sitting on the stairs holding the phone, my
arms would float up and I had to keep my focus on them to make them come back down and
feel normal. This lasted a good twenty minutes.
(Mary told me a door in her house did something similar. It would
appear to close and when she focussed on it it was open, as it should have been. When she
relaxed her thoughts the door would start swinging shut. She described it as being like
two doors overlapping each other, one open and the other swinging closed. Her mind was
keeping it open.) Later, I went to the toilet and noticed when I blinked everything was
like a golden yellow mandala behind my eyelids. Then I noticed a noise directly outside my
bathroom window, could have been a bird but it sounded more like a single beep than a
cheep. It was just the one single note every 8- 10 seconds or so. I went to bed then
because I'd been a bit spooked I immediately got up and went into bed beside my son. As
soon as I lay down something started to crawl around the left side of my face. It was like
electricity. It was strong and I thought if I look in the mirror my face will be moving. I
couldn't make it stop and this lasted till I fell asleep.
The next day Mary phoned me and said they'd tried to call me as soon as
they'd gotten home from my house and they'd tried till well after midnight. I didn't get
the calls. I can't remember what I did between talking on the phone to my partner and
going to bed. But I don't think I lost time or anything.
On the 17th Gary Wood phoned me and I gave him their number.
On Monday 21st Oct you phoned me and asked for their number, saying
"you might as well tell me because I'll be getting it from Garry later". I
refused and suggested I ask them first and give your number to them, which I did. However
when you met Mary you said that I had given you their number. I think she was a bit
annoyed at me for that. She told me that the previous night was the worst they'd
experienced so far. They'd been very frightened. Entities appearing all over the house and
other things, i.e. doors appearing to close when they were really open and a grey standing
IN the bed, amongst other things.
I lost about another six light bulbs by this time. We also went to see
the place where the craft had landed. We didn't quite find the exact spot but as soon as
we got out of the car we were almost blown over by a freak wind which didn't rock the tops
of the trees. My youngest son then aged 4 was with us and he started screaming his head
off and wanted to leave.
On Friday 25 Mary phoned and wanted to come for a visit with her son.
As I opened the door to them they almost fell through it in fright. There was a black
triangle floating around over Kennoway. My partner was at his work and I had the kids or
we'd have gone up there. We thought of telling the police but didn't in case nothing was
found and we'd look really daft. I asked Peter what he could see and he said he could see
entities here there, over there etc. A said she could see where they were by their
shimmering the air but she could stop them getting more solid by will power. They said
Peter had moved a couple of things with his thoughts but she banned him from doing it
because he could see a black outline around the object that moved and she felt it was a
negative energy. I was very tempted to ask for a demo. but didn't, however I did get a
strong electric shock off him at one point.
He drew me a couple of sketches of what the entities looked like and
they were the classic greys, though some had teeth. A while later heard him cry
"mum" in a panicky voice and she was looking all over the room with fright. He
jumped off the couch and into her arms hiding his head. He asked "what's
happening" and she replied "I don't know son". She then explained that my
living room was filling up with greys, and she couldn't stop them "coming
through", they were solid. I didn't see a thing but the hairs were up on the back of
my neck and my dog hid first behind the chair, then under my legs. They were truly
frightened "It's the ones with the teeth" one of them said. This calmed down
after a wee while. Later she phoned her older son who was home alone, he was feeling a bit
spooked so she sent a taxi to get him and they all stayed at my house. The boys got the
bed and myself and Mary slept on the floor in the living room. I dreamed of a black
triangular craft over a house nearby and someone whispering info. to me, but I couldn't
hear them. I woke up in the middle of the night then fell asleep and had the same dream
again. Next morning when everyone was in the living room my electric went off at the mains
by itself. The mains button was at OFF.
Over the next few weeks I lost around a dozen and a half light bulbs.
Once when I was angry three of them blew, one after the other. My iron went really hot and
burned my table, then let out a belch of smoke & broke, the washing machine broke
twice, my central heating broke and no-one could fix it till after about six visits and
attempts at it. It snowed and we froze. One day I couldn't unlock my back door to get out
with the washing. I walked around the street to try it from the outside but still couldn't
get it open. My partner came home from work and it opened straight away. Amongst all this
my electricity was still going off at the mains. Lying in bed once I smelled a fire and
there was none. One night watching telly we heard our youngest son 4 come downstairs. He
stopped outside the door and I got up laughing wondering what he wanted & why he was
so shy to come in. He wasn't there. My oldest son who was then 9 said a ball of light flew
across his room and up the wall. A couple of months later he yelled the house down one
He'd been sleeping and woke up to find himself floating up into the
middle of the room. There was a row of wee men standing at the door, wanting him. He was
screaming because he couldnt get his "bed to go back down again". He's
completely forgotten this. Then our car was written off in an accident. This was about the
end of a right string of bad luck which I will always wonder, was it connected to the Fife
Incident. I've read elsewhere that these type of effects are quite common around
abductees, or UFO activity.
The witnesses to the Fife Incident told me straight from the start they
didn't mind who knew their story, they wanted folk to know this stuff was happening, but
they didn't want to be identified, probably for fear of ridicule,and also because they
wanted their lives back to normality as soon as possible, and felt that once they told
their story, which they did, they wanted to be left alone. It was for me an eye-opening
experience, I'm glad I met them and would love to know what's been going on since we last
Sharon UFO researcher from Buckhaven in Fife Central Scotland.
I (Malcolm Robinson) also had an e-mail from Billy Devlin who was a
fellow SPI researcher who assisted me on the Fife Investigation and his comments are
featured in the Fife Interview transcript elsewhere in this article. This is what Billy
had to say to me in an e-mail dated 18th November 2003. When I asked him his
current thoughts about the case.
I have had a look at my pics from the case and the two I have attached
seem the best. They are two of the place the boy said he was seeing the aliens standing. I
took the pics as he was pointing saying they were there. I remember she did not want us to
take pics of her or any of the family. As for the case, well she seemed happy with how we
dealt with her. She thanked us as we left, even hugging us and thanking us so unless there
was some Ulterior motive on her part I believe we dealt with them and their requests.
Remember it was not us who went public with the story.
As to whether or not I think it happened. Well she did seem to have
knowledge of the UFO thing and read up about them. Was she not a member of some group at
one time?.....You can maybe say on its own she was making it up but this does not take
into consideration the things the wee boy was saying and doing. He is the one the case
should be centering on but in this day and age we are all under threat of child molesting
if we approach him with a view to finding out. Something did happen but there are to many
people involved in the investigation for the details to be clear. We all hold pieces of
the jigsaw but as usual it does not look like any of the other people want to share the
piece so we can get a clearer picture.
All the best.
CONCLUDING REMARKS BY MALCOLM ROBINSON.
So there you have it. I hope that what is featured above gives you the
reader an understanding of this impressive case and that you understand SPIs
frustration and not doing ant more research with the witnesses on this case. Readers I
could also go on and on with other things that Dave Colman has accused me of in regards to
the Fife Incident, all nonsense. Suffice it to say I will meet with Dave Colman anywhere,
anytime, and alone at his wishes to discuss this with him face to face. UFOlogy could well
do without this type of thing, but when one is being accused of things that he didn't do
then one must stand up for themselves, by not doing so is not in keeping with fair play.
Dave has managed to mould a lot of people to his way of thinking and suggestion and people
who dont even know me are now writing to me in derogatory terms. Is that fair play
The people that write to me having heard just Daves side of the
story should look at the coins in the pocket, I bet they get a shock when they see that
they have two sides. Think about it.
The Fife Incident is a major case and I hope that when Dave and I meet
on his terms that we can hopefully somewhere, reach some form of acceptable agreement on
the case and put it behind us. We may agree to differ, but at the very least I hope that
this will be an end to it and we can get on with other things. As for the case itself,
well, youve now read how initially SPI reported the case back in 1996/7 and the
debacle of claims and counter claims about who did what whilst researching the case.
Ive also for the first time transcribed the Fife Interview tapes so that
you can read word for word what was said. Indeed, I could have featured quite
a number of other Independent UFO sighting cases that I have on file to support the fact
that UFO activity was current and ongoing in Fife during the years of 1996 and 1997,
indeed here in November 2003, Sharon a UFO researcher from Buckhaven tells me that UFO
activity is still ongoing in the Fife area.
SPI aim to stage a National UFO skywatch during August 2004 at Newton
of Falkland, (at the area where the Fife Incident occurred) However, more details of that
will be posted and e-mailed to interested parties nearer the time.
I am more than happy to debate this very important Scottish case with
anyone, by e-mail or face to face. Is this case real then ! Honestly I dont know. We
are dealing with UFO witnesses and nothing more, just like we are in many other cases the
world over. One things for sure, the Fife Incident, just like the A70 Incident and
the Robert Taylor Livingston case, are Scotlands top UFO cases and show that this
phenomenon also happens in Scotland as well as elsewhere.
Just as I was closing this article, this e-mail came into my e-mail
account dated 18th November 2003, it reads thus,
Anonymous <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
be aware that you are being observed halt your practises or suffer the consequences of
your actions leave the Fife case alone.
Indeed, well it will take more than anonymous e-mails to detract from
SPI in getting to the truth. Its fair to point out, that David Colman too, got this
e-mail ! so it would appear that someone, somewhere, is out to cause a little controversy
! Hope you found the article of interest. (Malcolm Robinson Founder SPI)
©Malcolm Robinson (Founder SPI Scotland-England.)
Malcolm Robinson Founder SPI Scotland-England.
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